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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 09:34 
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Readers of the Manchester Evening News (MEN) will be aware that three councils on the GMPTA (Greater Manchester Transport Authority) have pulled out of the propposed Raod Pricing Trail in Greater Manchester.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... evolt.html

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... _road.html

the three non labour controlled councils that have pulled out are

Trafford

Rochdale

Stockport.

The councils that have not and still support Road Pricing in Greater Manchester are

Bolton

Manchester

Bury

Oldham

Salford

Tameside

Wigan

The reason the 3 non labour controlled councils have given for pulling out of the RP trial is that they accuse the Labour controlled GMPTA of withholding how much the average cost is going to to the average motorist in Greater Manchester.

They suspect it is going to be quite high, the London Con Charge was not profitable at £5 per day, so they upped it to £8 per day, the Greater Manchester scheme is much bigger, so £8 per day is not unexspected, and remember the Greater Manchester one is planned to be billed by the mile, not just for entering a C Charge Zone.

Basicly they reckon the figure is so high that if Labour was to release it pre May 3rd elections, it would wipe Labour out of Greater Manchester so they are trying to keep it quiet, but the three non Labour Controlled councils have had enough.

Rochdale council leader Alan Taylor said: "The only details of the scheme are those I have read in the M.E.N."

"We are being told we will know more on May 25, but that is ridiculous. They say they have not prepared any details, but they must have the information"

Stockport MP Mark Hunter says

"The Labour-run GMPTA have continually refused to give relevant information about these plans, what public transport improvements will be installed and whether these improvements will come first, what roads will be charged and how the charges might affect jobs and the economy.

"They are expecting MPs and councillors to accept plans sight unseen. If Manchester council wants to go ahead with its own zoned charging scheme, that's a matter for them. But I don't see why the rest of us should have some half-baked scheme foisted upon us."



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Labour now getting well shirty with the councils who have pulled out.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1005/1005336_warning_for_ccharge_rebels.html


Labour MP for Oldham Phil Woolas.

"COUNCIL chiefs in Greater Manchester who are blocking plans for local congestion charges have received a warning from the government.

Local government minister Phil Woolas, an Oldham MP, said that if the non-Labour councils of Rochdale, Stockport and Trafford didn't back down they would have to pay the price."

Oh, and the 1 billion TIF bribe for bringing in Road pricing, is now 2 billion.

This message from the Labour goverment basicly says.

"Reinstate your support for Greater Manchester Road Pricing, or we will cut off all goverment funding for your 3 councils"

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cirian75 wrote:
Labour now getting well shirty with the councils who have pulled out.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1005/1005336_warning_for_ccharge_rebels.html


Labour MP for Oldham Phil Woolas.

"COUNCIL chiefs in Greater Manchester who are blocking plans for local congestion charges have received a warning from the government.

Local government minister Phil Woolas, an Oldham MP, said that if the non-Labour councils of Rochdale, Stockport and Trafford didn't back down they would have to pay the price."

Oh, and the 1 billion TIF bribe for bringing in Road pricing, is now 2 billion.

This message from the Labour goverment basicly says.

"Reinstate your support for Greater Manchester Road Pricing, or we will cut off all goverment funding for your 3 councils"


Wonder if that's why Reading is going ahead with its inner road changes despite protests from surrounding councils.

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cirian75 wrote:
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This message from the Labour goverment basicly says.

"Reinstate your support for Greater Manchester Road Pricing, or we will cut off all goverment funding for your 3 councils"


:o can they do that?

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Local Labour leaders say that unless all 10 councils in Greater Manchester agree it is unlikely there will be any cash from the government to complete the Metrolink `big bang' extensions to the airport, Ashton Under Lyne and Oldham and Rochdale.


is this not blackmail?

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cirian75 wrote:
the three non labour controlled councils that have pulled out are

Trafford

Rochdale

Stockport.

Rare to see Stockport do anything decent, but even so, well done :clap:

Having said that, they're certainly not as bad as neighbouring Manchester and Tameside :x

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Guy here Chris being interviewed by BBC news

He is a MART member too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid ... w=bb&mp=wm

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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1005/1005648_bolton_drop_ccharge_support.html

Good news, if they hold true and don't change their minds after the elections

so thats now

Trafford

Rochdale

Stockport

and now

Bolton.

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I hate the phrase “charge drivers for using the roads” we are charged to use to road it is called road fund licence. They make it sound like it costs nothing to drive your car.

Why should I fund public transport, when I don’t use it?
I don’t ask some one at a bus stop to give me a couple of quid to help fund me to go to work.

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