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I'm getting a little tired of the crap going on in this thread, let's get back to the topic please.

The thread was started in an attempt to show that the predictions made by Paul appear to be happening. The woman "thought she was safe" and so was not concentrating on the job at hand. She was day dreaming and looking out the side windows and managed to kill a pedestrian.

It doesn't matter if the pedestrian should or should not have been there! This woman had been brainwashed into believing that by driving under the speed limit she was "safe" and therefore did not need to focus on her driving.

This is EXACTLY what Paul has been warning about on this forum and now we have one reported example of it actually happening!

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

It's finally happened?
A driver having killed seeks to blame something other than her own incompetence/criminal negligence for an entirely avoidable fatality. And this is news?
People in the dock for serious offences always 'fess up the truth don't they?
I'd've thought the most likely 'brainwashing' would be the suggestion, promoted here, that it's legit to blame speed limit enforcement for one's driving like a dangerous fool.

The driver was not seeking to blame anyone other than herself. She was merely pointing out that she thought she was safe because she was driving UNDER the speed limit.

She had been brainwashed by the Speed Kills message that constantly pervades our radio and televisions and as she was not speeding she believed she was therefore a safe driver.

If you cannot see that then you should go and suck your own tailpipe!

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

Sorry, but I don't share your faith in the veracity of the accused statements.
Seems not unlikely that the dozy mare, bang to rights for causing death by dangerous driving, is casting around, after the fact, for mitigating factors.
I've seen no govt publicity anywhere asserting that if you drive within legal limits you are immune from risk or prosecution, that only speed kills.
Though I have heard and seen many assertions by the anti-limit/camera faction that driving within legal limits makes people inattentive and poor drivers.
So it seems most likely to me that her tactic is inspired/informed/supported/legitimised less by official govt policy on speeding, and more by sites like this.

And were I to suck my own tailpipe you'd be out of a job.

Isn't it "brainwashing" to blaim speed for 30% or road deaths when it is not true. Or to suggest that speed cameras cut road deaths when in fact they do not...Is that not a more dangerous form of brainwashing.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Your writing style suggests intelligence but your lack of understanding suggests otherwise. Her statements are not going to mitigate her offence in any way. She will still receive the same penalty as she would if she simply said she didn't see the pedestrian so the only reason for her comments would be if she actually believed she was safe.

The ONLY road "safety" related advertising we see or hear is "Speed Kills" and "Wipe of 5 and stay alive". It seems that every time there is a crash where someone dies the reports include some mention of speed even though in most cases it did not cause the crash. The only other advertising is “drowsy drivers die” and “drink and drive and you’re a bloody idiot”. So what other message are the general population supposed to infer from this than you are safe if you drive under the speed limit whilst not affected by alcohol and you are not tired? I have never seen any advertising suggesting that you should drive to the conditions or to slow down in the rain or to keep your vision up and ahead.

The only advertising about driving near schools says that the new 40kph (24mph) limits at schools has been introduced to save lives, nothing about watching out for kids between cars, just drive at 40kph and the kiddies will be safe.

The government is sending out a strong anti speed message but NOTHING about improving road courtesy or improving hazard perception or driving to the conditions, ie nothing to improve overall driver behaviour or to reduce the road toll.

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

Then you haven't been reading very carefully, because we warn against all forms of carelessness and inattention. We also warn against the mistaken belief that "sticking to the speed limit makes you safe".

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