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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 16:29 
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...and you all thought that differential calculus was an boring, irrelevant subject :roll: :shock: when it was being taught to you.


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...and you all thought that differential calculus was an boring, irrelevant subject :roll: :shock: when it was being taught to you.


Not me :D

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Whilst I fully appreciate the fact that police drivers have to receive the highest standard of training, there remain the problems of awareness and anticipation of the public at large.

In a supposedly enlightened society, mixing pedestrians and moving traffic is lunacy at best but when a rapidly moving vehicle appears from nowhere, tragedy can be the sad consequence.


Absolutely! :thumbsup:

If a police car is going past my house at, I would estimate, somewhere around three figures in a 30 limit over the brow of a slight hill, I don't care what training he has had or if he has the reactions of a cat - it's completely irresponsible!

If someone has the windows down and the radio switched on, a siren isn't going to be very useful - especially at the speeds he's going at. In my case, the officer/fool more often only has the blue light on which again, you wouldn't see at the junction when you're trying to pull across because he simply wouldn't be within sight at that point in time.

Also, I sometimes drive diesel cars and wouldn't be able to pull across the road with alacrity even if I did suddenly see him heading for me. I wouldn't be able to get across in time in any vehicle quite frankly.

I cannot overemphasise the madness of it. I guess because I can see the situation in my minds eye it affects me more than I can convey here

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"I cannot overemphasise the madness of it"

The mind positively boggles at the justification for driving at such rates when we're constantly brainwashed into believing that "Speed Kills". To insist that we all should possess the reactions of a mongoose, flies in the face of any common sense or reason.

I wonder just what makes the police believe their vehicles and drivers are able to remain immune to the law of physics in that collisions with other vehicles or flesh and blood have little or no effect.

The only redeeming feature of this arrogance on the part of the police is their increasing use of the helicopter.


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......from an amateur radio rally at Elvaston Castle park near Derby.

Blot on the landscape was the uniformed scammers known as "safety camera" operators with their bright yellow tent:

http://www.slowitdown.co.uk/

Yours truly sidles over and asks a couple of pertinent questions such as: If cameras are so effective, why are the KSI stats and hopitalisation of road casualties up on the previous year. A swift denial came the response with the claim that accidents were 25% down on the previous year. I pointed them to the government site from which I gleaned the aforementioned figures but again, I was assured that I must have been mistaken, misinformed, lunatic or somesuch.

Very well, take another tack. A friend has just completed a two day advanced motorcycle course run by none other than Her Royal Madges Constabulary. I'm seriously thinking of enrolling after the reports he gave. One of the features of the course is hammering down country lanes in the tow of a police rider at well over NSL using the opposite side of the road when prudent. I asked how this squared up to their blanket claim that *speed kills*. This too met with a blank denial and a statement that no police officer would condone breaking traffic law - especially with a member of the public present.

Basically, I've had it with these jokers - I've reached the stage where I can't take any more lies........


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Basically, I've had it with these jokers - I've reached the stage where I can't take any more lies........


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Spireman wrote:
......from an amateur radio rally at Elvaston Castle park near Derby.

Blot on the landscape was the uniformed scammers known as "safety camera" operators with their bright yellow tent:

http://www.slowitdown.co.uk/

Yours truly sidles over and asks a couple of pertinent questions such as: If cameras are so effective, why are the KSI stats and hopitalisation of road casualties up on the previous year. A swift denial came the response with the claim that accidents were 25% down on the previous year. I pointed them to the government site from which I gleaned the aforementioned figures but again, I was assured that I must have been mistaken, misinformed, lunatic or somesuch.

Very well, take another tack. A friend has just completed a two day advanced motorcycle course run by none other than Her Royal Madges Constabulary. I'm seriously thinking of enrolling after the reports he gave. One of the features of the course is hammering down country lanes in the tow of a police rider at well over NSL using the opposite side of the road when prudent. I asked how this squared up to their blanket claim that *speed kills*. This too met with a blank denial and a statement that no police officer would condone breaking traffic law - especially with a member of the public present.

Basically, I've had it with these jokers - I've reached the stage where I can't take any more lies........





If we look back over mankind's long and sordid history, every new invention which could be used for good is inevitably sooner or later used for harm against mankind. Whether it's the humble bow and arrow to splitting the atom in order to harness much needed energy - there's always someone ready and willing to use it for their own gain, success or out of sheer malevolence :(

The incredible advances in technology and availability of cheap resources have made our world seem better and easier for us, but it comes at a price, and I don't mean just money. It was inevitable that scameras would at some point be used against us in the name of safety and it's not over yet sadly. It's evolution in progress and we will just have to continue fighting the good fight until we win, just as every generation has had to over countless generations.

On a positive note though, truth will always rise above lies and there are some very good people on our side here :smile: Eventually, it will become a big enough issue that a politician will stand for election on the promise of abandoning scameras in favour of something else. (Whether he keeps to his word is something else of course, as always)

Society will break down eventually as more and more people start losing their licences so something will have to give. It's a shame it has to break before it's fixed but that's the kind of reactive government we have unfortunately.

Keep yer chin up bud :)

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