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I was following a National Grid van the other day displaying "Kill your speed - Drive Safely".

Something for both RB and SS there I think.

When we'd pulled up at some lights I took a picture with my mob. (No, I wasn't driving)

The funny thing was, he was speeding; At one point 33mph, (according to my Tom Tom), in a 20mph limit - his wheels carefully tracking either side of the road bumps.

He wasn't driving dangerously, in my view. There were no parked cars or children because the kids are off school. In fact it was a 30mph limit last year but, well you know how it goes...



[img][img]http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb186/ajm58/van.jpg[/img][/img]

Who next? BT, Tesco home delivery, buses, the back of police horses?

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

The latest thing in a village near me is all the wheelie bins now have "Kill Your Speed" stickers on them so that you see them when they are put on the kerbside. I don't know whether this is the Council or the locals themselves, though.

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Malcolm W.
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Maybe we'll see it on cigarette packs and change the less important smoking kills with the far more dangerous speed kills message.

They could write it on the the seats in public toilets too, for the junkies.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I first noticed this on National Grid vans when I started driving to work, so that'd mean they've been doing it for at least 8 months... And buses have been carrying road safety ads for years, though since that's purely down to the councils/SCPs buying up the advertising space it's not quite the same as having the bus operators themselves placing such messages on their buses:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leic ... 035863.stm
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transpo ... campaigns/

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Chris

You don't have to be physically moving to get nicked for using a mobile behind the wheel.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

Although Tone says "not driving" rather than "not moving" the photo does look like it's from the drivers seat.

This raises an interesting point. If you use your mobile phone as a camera and don't attempt to make a call, is this specifically illegal?

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Malcolm W.
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I suspect that "the law" would take the view that although you're not actively using the phone in it's accepted sense, you're still using it in a manner that diverts your attention from the road, similar to texting behind the wheel.

But - IMO - talking / texting / taking pics / playing Texas Hold 'Em Poker on the phone, whilst in stationary traffic when there is clearly no chance of moving forward in the next few minutes or so, isn't really doing anyone any harm is it?

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Simon

The 'stupid mobile phone law' requires that you are using it for an interactive communication function. So using it to take photos doesn't count for that.
(Unless those photos are part of a video conference. Then it probably would. )

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Andrew.

People drinking from a coke can aren't operating a mobile either, but they still get nicked.

Not under the Road Vehicles (Construction and use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003.

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Andrew.

I'm sayin nuffin gov. I'm innocent until proven guilty

But common sense would suggest it's no different to faffing with the radio.

I think, in fact, twiddling yer knobs while driving seems worse than what I did. (did I just incriminate myself?) Is it so different to pressing buttons for the window/sunroof/etc.?

I guess it depends if you are caught by PC jobsworth.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I notice a sister company in our group (who we are merging with) have just recieved some sort of award from Brake!!!!!

I am fortunate in that I may be in a position to influence this nonsence!

The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003 refer specifically to using the device to communicate - either voice or text. It does not cover the myriad other functions of the modern mobile - including being used as a camera or video: there is other legislation in existence that can be sued for these that will provide the same or worse punishment.

Strangely, the C&U legislation referred to above does not cover two-way radios.

But those other laws require an actual impairment to driving/control, which would not apply when stopped.