Please get a GPS speedo. If you set cruiser at 72 mph - you are actually travelling at 69 mph. On all cars post 1997- this appear to be normal drift .. even on a calibrated police speedo.
(We did use IG's doo-dah und even allowing for hand held slippage (which not feature when mounted on steady tripod
) ... it show this to be the norm on all cars
hjeg1 wrote:
RobinXe wrote:
hjeg1 wrote:
I really don't know why you and Robin have been so keen to come out with "retorts". I only mentioned them to stop people coming out with the lame old "you just work for the Labour Party" lines.
Perhaps because noone here has accused you of working for the labour party, but we are very used to new posters like you pitching up here with your apparent prejudices about the members here!
But you're obviously not understanding the point of me saying that then. I said that to get my 'defence' in first!
Travelling in outer lane when no need to a
I hope you never go to Germany. You might get banned from driving there for Moron offences.
I drive to UK rules with German/Swiss discipline. It save my life here.
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RobinXe wrote:
Your posts are continued nonsense and flawed logic!
In your opinion!
hjeg1 wrote:
I'm not preaching anymore than you lot are. By the way, how can you say that they are likely to be far safer behind the wheel than me, when in a lot of cases they are doing far higher speeds. Like the guy who admitted on this thread or another one that he did 100.
RobinXe wrote:
I'm not that guy.
I didn't say you were. But is it not a valid example?
RobinXe wrote:
How many advanced motoring courses have you done?
What's that got to do with anything? Does taking an advanced motoring course let you break the law?
No. It mean we can drive well enough to protect ourselves when we come across the morons though. It train hazard awareness
Most importantly though - it teach courtesy which more or less mean we OVERTAKE you und return to lanes properly with indicator showing intention und with vaguest hope we also make you morons stop to think why car overtake you ,.. indicate to return to L2 und then back L1 und continue to make better progress than you making... without upsetting anyone at all
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Do you think that doing 100mph makes someone less safe than someone wilfully obstructing traffic?
I'm not willfully obstructing traffic, I'm merely driving in the middle lane at the speed limit.
But you can also drive to this limit in empty L1.
I tend to use L1 if empty or free flowing. I use mirrors/signals/life saver glances into blind spot und when I pull out into the outer flows .. it like joining in first place.. as in I match my speed to blend in where possible. It called driving to C O A S T principles if you like
When I finish my overtaking spree.. I return back to the inner lanes with a decent two second margin to person I overtake.
If some one wish to drive faster than me.. that their decision und it not up to me to dictate or be party to a road rager incident. I just assist their overtake by just allowing them to do so. If they above speed limit..their choice und their risk of penalty point by talivan over bridge . though with slippage .. it not that easy to be sure per the jenni bond prog this evening
But it certainly not for me as ordinary person und not a police officer to "teach any lessons" or risk an incident to "prove some daft point". I have obligation to keep me und mine safe und defend as best I can und as courteously as I can. Driving at 70 mph in middle lane when I have inner lane to drive in und thus closer to hard shoulder should something dire happen (rare as my car well serviced but you cannot rule out anything in engine throwing a right tantrum at times.
) I also learn from past. I think that had I been in inner lane und not coming to halt to jam in the middle lane that day (I pass lorry in L1 some 200 metre before the wave jam start. There were HGV in L1. L2 crawling whereas L1 more static. I stay in L2. It was wrong decision. I hit hard in rear end when someone taken very ill. I saw him coming at me. Nowhere to run.. but had I been in L1 .. I may have had the time to flee into hard shoulder's more relative safety und let someone else cope with the ensuing mess.
)
So you see - it really safer to keep to L1 unless overtaking something
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But someone speeding is, in my opinion, showing a complete lack of courtesy and respect for other road users. And if drivers stuck to the speed limit then they're not being forced to DWDCA because they won't be catching up to me. And I'm not blocking someone from using the correct lane because I wouldn't be driving in the middle lane if I was going slower than the speed limit. I'm not defending someone who does 50 in the middle lane.
RobinXe wrote:
Yes yes, again conveniently ignoring the fact that if your speedo reads 70mph, then you are doing less. Kind of makes you realise how irrelevant a number is to safe speed, doesn't it?
Hold on a moment, I thought I replied to this point of yours? I shall have to have another look at this thread to see what your reply, if any, was to my reply. Are you seriously telling me that the average modern car's speedo is way out on the actual speed? Or are you just clutching at straws?
It out by 3mph over-read. It does so on all cars in this family aged from new buy in 1997 to 2007.
It further out on the classics though,
Old Cavalier was out by 4 mph at low speed to 9 mph under-read at 70 mph. Even when we change speedo - it had the same problem. The old 1950-70s modern classics also have this problem as these speedos not linked to on-board computers
But even then .. dependent on car make/wheel size to even polish on a road surface .. we can have slight variances from 3-5 mph. These cars tested on track und road by police officer trained to use his doo-dahs.
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You never answered my question; if there is room for you to move into the left lane with no inconvenience to yourself, what purpose is being served by obstructing other drivers in the middle lane?
I'm slowing the traffic down.
Not up to you. Up to you to keep you und yours safe. What the other muppet do.. you diffuse situation by keeping it safe. Sitting in middle lane not doing so
und if they did make serious mistake und hit central reserve.. or hit car in front of them in L3 ..then the richochet will involve
you .. so all the more reason to keep thing safe und assist all overtakes by using inner lane if not intending to overtake anything at all.
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RobinXe wrote:
Who do you suppose put you in charge of 'teaching people a lesson'?
Now I'm
sure that I replied to that point! Anyway, let me reply again: no-one put me in charge of teaching people a lesson; I'm merely driving in the middle lane at the speed limit. You're basically saying "let the police do the policing" and in response to that would you ignore someone being threatened in the street because it should be the police that do the policing?
PS: I'm not trying to teach you a lesson, but do write the words "no one" either as two words like that or with a hyphen in them like this: "no-one"!
If I see someone threatened in street - I call 999 und tell them we have an emergency here. I am not going to get myself killed by interfering myself even though I can deliver a decent kick worthy of any professional football striker straight into the "net" of their dangly bits. I am slim woman - they usually bigger than me anyway
.
But I do not drive in middle lane when inner lane will suffice. Nor do I deliberately drive slowly either. If being tailgated .. I increase the gap for him to move into und adjust to let him or her pass me. If they persist despite this .. it once around roundabout . (I did engineer ping once to a real moron. He deserve it. I have not one regret on that one as he most rudey to everyone on road.)
But we have three lane luxury here. I keep to L1 unless I overtake, I stay in L2 for as long as I do overtake und when done und dusted .. I move back to L1 (unless we have merger und I need outer lane which become the"new L1!"
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