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I've had a hunt around the web, I have located a document (section 9.3.12) confirming that use of the A52 is to be discouraged, but I can't find anything stating that speed limit reductions will be the chosen method.

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Take traffic from a major through route and use an unclassified road instead?

If you want to get to the sea of course you should use a C road...
Sorry, um...

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Andrew.

No apology needed...they're talking about diversion off the A52 - and the A52 (as far as I recall) runs through Skegness (quite close to the sea!) and continues on out of town (and doesn't the A158 meet the A52 in the town?).
Of course, not all seaside towns use minor roads to 'get to the sea' - so it's by no means an obvious point.

I think you took Ziltro's post a little too seriously.

Say what you C

I wouldn't worry to much with the extra carbon emissions, due to the extra 7 mile journey, this will clearly help to increase climte change therefore the all the ice will melt and sea levels will rise, so boston will be boston on sea any way.

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you're right of course - should have left it for when I was awake

Perhaps we should put the ABD onto this:

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15474

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Malcolm W.
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Sorry, terrible joke. I couldn't resist though...

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Andrew.

This lowering of speed limits is happening everywhere and it’s my belief they’re setting these low limits now in preparation for the introduction of country wide congestion charging (or something), what the government and councils are doing to our roads is already causing congestion everywhere and it’s going to get worse.

By reducing the limits on country roads it will discourage you from taking alternative routes, they want the main routes congested so they can charge you more. The speed limits will be that low that you will be put off taking alternative routes. When satellite tracking comes in they will be tracking your speed so they won’t need speed cameras. They’ll also continue to put up more unnecessary roadwork’s with traffic lights everywhere (I’ve noticed allot more of these appearing lately). Why else would they want to reduce speed limits the way they are doing at present. It’s obvious it’s not about road safety, I agree with Keith Peat that it’s a political use of speed limits, and I’d go even further than just speed limits.

Returning home from work on Friday (Suffolk to Cheshire) I came off the M6 at Stafford because of an accident between junctions 15 and 16 it was an absolute nightmare, the number of roads that have gone from 60 to 40, stretched out 30 limits (the list is endless) for no apparent reason, not to mention all the other alterations they’ve made to make driving a misery. People who don’t need to travel great distances don’t see the whole picture, so don’t know any different.

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Interesting to see that Skegness council obviously don't agree with the proposed A52 changes, see para 175 on the link below, surely that would be good ammunition for any formal group that was considering fighting the proposals.

http://www.skegness.gov.uk/pages/minute ... 170407.pdf

Or something. ISA.



Claire and I got through that on the M6 just after it re-opened. A car had fully left the motorway and was upturned in a field. Something ominously man-sized in the field was covered in black plastic. It looked like a single vehicle fatal crash.

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Paul Smith
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In the ideal world, speed limits would be set by traffic engineers working for an independent road body, rather than local government.

Alternatively, or at the same time, make it so that speeding offences don't generate fines, just penalty points, and so the business of making money from speeding motorists is taken away.

Make that...

In a sensible world...
Or
In a reasonable world...

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Paul Smith
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This is the core issue as far as I'm concerned.

If the answer to every road transport question is a speed camera, when we drivers see a camera, how the hell are we supposed to know what the question was in the first place?

safety? the environment? congestion management? NIMBYism? "encouragement" of car users to take public transport instead? Someone living on the road in question being best mates with someone on the Council? A spare £50k in the Council budget that had to be spent at the end of the year?

And they wonder why people have no respect for speed limits?

If a group of private Companies had the sort of free reign with consumer pricing that local councils have with setting speed limits and collecting fines, a Government body would be set up to regulate them.... Indeed, central Government IS keeping a close eye on local Councils when it comes to Council tax levels, but anything that persecutes the motorist is a free-for-all.

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Don,t voet the councilors in the same as the MP's

This is what makes me sick about the whole thing. Speed limit reductions are predominantly used as a means of "traffic management". Yet when people are caught exceeding them (but still driving within the road's original limit) it's suddenly all about road safety.

Has anyone ever used the above argument in court? Someone should.

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No point. The charge is exceeding the limit and has no bearing on the validity of the speed level set.

If you object to lower limits being introduced you are portrayed as a "child killer".

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Malcolm W.
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that's why we (IMO) need variable limits - and clear signing to say "lower liit in place at the moment as there is a problem up ahead" or something like that. But better.

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