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Quite possibly.

I should add that within Cumbria traffic (MSG) I have colleagues who are constantly snowed under with paperwork. There are a few obvious reasons for this.

• They take on more than they can cope with.
• They lack the ability to use discretion to it's best effect.
• They fear paperwork and constantly put it off so that it becomes a problem.
• They struggle to keep up with changes in paperwork requirements and therefore avoid doing it.
• They feel the need to outperform their colleagues and constantly top the list in recordable workrate, but are constantly bottom of the list when it comes to file quality.

I guess in writing this I'm coming to the conclusion that personal time management is the problem. I have maintained the same style of work for the past 6 or so years on traffic. It's possible that increased paperwork has led to a reduction in the number of offences I've proactively dealt with, but I do not feel any more or less busy. The exception is when we have extreme staff shortages due to sickness, leave etc. Our reactive work soon takes up all of our time, creating a paper backlog. This will also be the case with other forces who have trimmed their traffic resources harshly. They are not getting sufficient time to complete their response work and allow time for proactive work which is what we all want to do. They therefore overstretch themselves.

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Fixed ideas are like cramp, for instance in the foot, yet the best remedy is to step on them.

Ian

Yep, we've got a swimming pool the size of a small city.

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Fixed ideas are like cramp, for instance in the foot, yet the best remedy is to step on them.

Ian

In translation then, when you have caught enough criminals, to keep you busy, you stop fighting crime until you have cleared your paperwork back logue



Discretion for what purpose



so, if they do not catch criminals, no paperwork



To out perform their colleagues, they must choose the simplist form of paperwork.

Hmnn, have a guess at the speeding fixed penalty, being easy going.


All in all, it sounds a pretty un effective force

Which is why we have high crime rates maybe.

Cumbria area is quite bad, maybe they should spend more time on criminals and less time on speeding fines, just a suggestion

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Steve

I'm sure your're right on each count - Ian. Same applies over here. Am in a "super" role - so think I get hammered with more of the pesky stuff as well. Having a day off today - am supposed to be decorating something or other and she who is in charge left clear instructions that she expected it finished by the time she got home or else! Me thinks "am in trubble"

We have officers who complete in the cars and others who do the who lote when they get back to base - having racked up more paperwork in the process!

Generally - we deal with matters as we see it - if discretion can be used - we use it. If we judge necessary to issue any fixed penalties, VDRS - we do.

But think the paperchase issues apply to any job - the medics, teachers, accountants, lawyers and even the country vet moan about it.

Would it not be more effective to employ administration staff to complete the paperwork, after your statements of coarse.

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Steve

Efficiency is the key. Quantity generally impinges on quality. If you want more crims caught, buy us some more coppers.



It's important that when we are dealing with someone we use discretion to obtain the best result for that person. If I feel someone would benefit from the lecture, that's what he gets, likewise VDRS, ticket or report for summons.


Often we get excellent thief takers who shy away from paperwork. They fall over prisoners but have a pile of paperwork in their drawer. It gets done, but usually needs a supervisor to hold the chap back in the office to get on with it.
Sure you’re right, it’s easy work…. speeders, seat belts, double white liners, drink drivers, disqual drivers, uninsured……..’taint rocket science.



We try our best, but mebbe you’re right, it’s probably not the place for you.

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Fixed ideas are like cramp, for instance in the foot, yet the best remedy is to step on them.

Ian

Here here! Way to go man!




Again - I like. What we do or try to do here.


It happens even in the super excellence which reigns here!




Perhaps our patch may not be your cup of tea either!

They think .. hust cos we don't have fixed scams and our bosss is on record as sayin summat or other ... then they com here and get .... fined!

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Agreed, however police funding has increased, it has never been reduced. So maybe we just need to allocate the funds the old fashioned way, it seems vast amount of sums are being used on Political correctness.




In an ideal world, we want excellent thief takers backed up by excellent admin staff.

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Steve