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Giving all the emphasis that GM and others seem to put on peer-review, I shall be interested how he handles this: (Thanks to Turbobloke on PH):

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/925#

Remember Monbiot has accused those sceptical of man-made climate change of being being like holocaust deniers...

I particularly like this bit:

...a new peer-reviewed study by a team of scientists appearing in the December 2007 issue of the International Journal of Climatology of the Royal Meteorological Society which found “Warming is naturally caused and shows no human influence.”

If he rubbishes it, it rather devalues his "peer-review" argument I think?

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Did this new report get any mention anywhere in the UK? Or has the media shut out to any "deniers" gotten that bad?

It will indeed be interesting to see how he tries to weasel out of this one.

This "denial" business really gets my goat. I didn't realise that Moonbat had taken that line as well, although it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

True scientists delight in being proven wrong, because science isn't about point-scoring or dogma, it's about mankind gradually uncovering the truth about how the universe works. We're all supposed to be on the same side. To have a chance of being proved wrong, you have to allow your opponents to speak.

Any "scientist" who tries to gag their opponents is a bloody charlatan as far as I'm concerned, and quite possibly a liar as well (remind you of anyone?) There's simply no need to do so. If your opponents are talking crap, it doesn't matter eventually because it'll all come out in the wash. I suspect that everything coming out in the wash is exactly what these people are afraid of. They've got too much invested in AGW. They care about themselves more than they do about humanity's future. And they have the cheek to tell car drivers the exact same thing.

Prof Beard, don't you find this attempt to gag those who question AGW absolutely abhorrent and totally anti-science? I think it's so, so telling. It seems that certain people really do want us to regress to a medieval lifestyle when they know it's unnecessary. How can they live with themselves? Presumably once they've forced that upon us they'll move onto something else. When will it stop? Why do these people see progress as such an evil thing? Why the wish to control the populace to such a degree? These loonies have already got far too far and need to be stopped.

(I know I've been ranting a lot lately. My apologies to anyone who's fed up with it; I just wish I didn't have so much to rant about! )

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If that's a rant it's surely a top rant.

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Paul Smith: a legend.

"The freedom provided by the motor vehicle is not universally applauded, however: there are those who resent the loss of state control over individual choice that the car represents. Such people rarely admit their prejudices openly; instead, they make false or exaggerated claims about the adverse effects of road transport in order to justify calls for higher taxation or restrictions on mobility." (Conservative Way Forward: Stop The War Against Drivers)

I should - to fair - qualify my "denier" reference - it may well be that Monbiot was quoting someone else rather than stating it as his view directly.

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Haha - the bbc run with this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7143810.stm

i can't find a single mention of the fact 'climate change' could very well (more likely than not in my opinion) be nothing to do with man-kind. It's evident we are emitting more than 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago etc, but it doesn't - i don't need to go on, we're all intelligent people here, you all know the truth anyway

also, the one the mirror ran with yesterday was even more hilarious

"2007 7th hottest year"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories ... -20242756/

or something along those lines. BBC did have it up, but it appears to have been deleted now (how very 1984) The Beeb went on to show how 2007 was the hottest year since a whopping 1970 or something. However, in doing so they also showed it was the coolest year in the last 7... with each year since 2001 being hotter than this - maybe that's why they removed it, as they realised it didn't fit well enough.

and just two days ago bbc were telling us there'll be no ice in summer by just 2013!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7139797.stm

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Talk about the people of UK not being allowed to see the counter argument, and having it rammed down our throat instead. Wasn't it a labour polictician who said all anti-climate change media should be banned ?