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Me neither. Speedcams are a fair target though...


Me neither. Everyone should drive at an appropriate speed


Yep.


Me neither.


Depends on what it said.

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

I agree May would be good but I don't know how he feels about motorbikes. I don't like Clarkson's anti-motorbike stance.

Hammond loves them, he's got a Ducati 1098, but he's the daredevil of the bunch.

Did anyone ever ask dear Paul if he liked them BTW?

Motorbikes are good for the environment, ease conjestion and you meet the nicest people on them where ever you go in the world

Oh, and if you give a lady a ride, she's nice and close to your back Now I ask you - in what other walk of life could you get a lovely lady to hug and hold you tight from behind? (Keep it clean please)


Edit to add: And girl bikers look sooo sexy.

I'm off for a cold shower...

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

And best of all, if you do get flashed by a speedophile whilst out biking, they can't get an incriminating mugshot of your face on film!

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Dave Lucas

Meanwhile returning to something approximating the topic - have a listen to Terry Wogan on road safety /cameras etc - seems he's almost in this camp.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Ta! Rude not to considering my recent conversion to the marque

BTW, Tone, Brother May loves his bikes and has a large collection of classic Hondas.

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Simon

May has, I believe, a triumph speed triple (the 1050 i think). He also has a model train set, I have met him in my local model train shop and he really is a nice chap.

By saying speed cameras are a fair target, you DO support the destruction of road safety equipment and are therefore anti-safety and pro-speed.
'An appropriate speed ' - the speed limit for the road or weather or traffic conditions, whichever is the lower.
Road safety literature - see my coment on speed cameras

That's a non-sequitur and misrepresentation.


You gave a definition for a legal and appropriate speed.

BUT! There are grounds to argue that a "speed" camera is NOT a safety camera.

In my opinion a safety camera is one that can

Identify driving that is dangerous.
Identify driving that is too fast for the conditions of the road at a particular time
Enable someone who is driving dangerously to be dealt with by police offices immediately.

Can your Gatsos do ANY of the above? No.

So, therefore, they are not effective as road safety devices.

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@ gatsos forever (I love your nick BTW, it's like a "no-quibble" guarantee; no doubting which side of the fence you're occupying), you misunderstand us SafeSpeed lot.

We do not condone - and never have - the destruction of road safety equipment. We leave that to "Captain Gatso".

We do, however, campaign for the disbandment of measures that have a proven track record in actively disassociating themselves from preventing deaths on our roads. Speed cameras, in other words.

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Simon

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We do not condone - and never have - the destruction of road safety equipment. We leave that to "Captain Gatso".

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But cameras are not "Road safety equipment " ---however their destruction ,although being something we can sympathise with , is not something we can advocate. Now whether or not I would dial 999 and report an attack on one -that's something I would leave to my conscience on the day and remembering that police now regard all mobile calls as dangerous.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

No, not at all. I do NOT condone, nor approve, nor indeed would I EVER support the destruction of road safety equipment. Speedcams are a fair target though.
Safety is my number one concern and I'm very much pro-appropriate speed at all times.

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You state that you support the destruction of speed cameras which are, despite SS views, safety equipment, therefore you do support the destruction of road safety equipment, therefore you do support terrorists and are an extremist. Your opinions are more proof that the pro-speed lobby are extremists.

Is that what passes for logic on your planet?

It's more logical than campaigning to scrap road safety equipment just because it stops you from getting away with breaking the law and endangering innocent people.

Further non-sequiturs, genius!

Good thing thats not why we campaign against speed cameras isn't it!

"If you don't believe in the law the way I believe in it then you are a terrorist". You are George W. Bush and I claim my prize!

I think Mr G Forever you are more pro-speed than us.
You are PRO-SPEED as you belive this is a method of determing what is safe or not.

Ask your self this, if your Speedo broke, would you suddenly crash?
Or can you drive your car safely with out a Speedo?
I know it is possible as when I was young the Speedo broke in my father’s car. My father has never had an accident.

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If they were safety equipment, they'd do something to make people safer.

They don't, they just take a picture if triggered by something going faster than a particular speed.

Which is why they are called speed cameras.

Are you lot totally thick?
Speed cameras take a picture of someone speeding - the person gets a fine and points on their licence - this is designed to make that person drive within the speed limit and therefore be safer than they would otherwise be. So, YES they ARE safety equipment.
Like I've always said - members of the pro-speed lobby are incapable of using logic - that is why they cannot understand the extremely basic concept of 'breaking the speed limit is against the law'

I think that question could be more aptly posed to you!

What does a speed camera do to prevent someone it has just snapped mowing down a child, either right away or at any point in the fortnight it takes the ticket to arrive?