Rigpig wrote:
bombus wrote:
Rigpig wrote:
Forget all these damned parking laws, lets all just park wherever the hell we like.
So you see nothing wrong with the primary goal of enforcement being revenue-raising rather than keeping the roads clear? Nothing wrong with parking attendants being given targets? Nothing wrong with councils being able to lay down unnecessary yellow lines etc just so that they can give tickets to people who park on them?
Logical fallacy alert Bombus, you are begging the question. You assume that, just because you believe those things to be true, that I do to.
Well I didn't exactly assume, I asked.

Rigpig wrote:
E.g. I see plenty wrong with parking enforcement being about revenue raising but I don't actually believe that this is the primary motive behind parking restrictions.
Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree there. I concur with what Ziltro says about DPE. Also, where there's DPE, there's a "contractor" such as NCP. Why do you suppose they're there, and try to issue as many tickets as possible?
Rigpig wrote:
But, as long as people keep parking illegally and being fined, then I suppose some will choose to believe its all about revenue particularly if they happen to think that their little indiscretion could have been overlooked.
If you were a cash-strapped council (as many seem to be), and you were already getting flack about high council tax, and you had DPE at your disposal, wouldn't you look upon it as a potential goldmine?
And some parking indiscretions should jolly well be overlooked, e.g. someone's bumper just overhanging a double yellow line (and no, I've never been done for that). They always were in the past and they should still be. It's quite clearly common sense.
Rigpig wrote:
Would it be better do you think if parking restrictions were simply lifted altogether? Would our motoring lives be easier or more difficult do you think?
I think we should go back to the police enforcing them, and having more police around, both of which used to be the case, and that seemed to work fine.
Where we have DPE, discretion goes out of the window, and absolutely no-one benefits from that except councils, their contractors, and silly spiteful little car-haters. We should be trying to achieve clear roads with as few tickets as possible, and surely any motorist would agree with that. DPE is about issuing as many tickets as possible. Hence stories about elderly couples getting tickets because they've pulled over due to the driver getting a heart attack (and no, I'm not making it up). You never used to hear about things like that. A policeman would have helped in that situation instead of handing out a ticket. DPE is bad, bad, bad if you're a driver. It's already gone too far and the gravy train is now speeding up and getting longer. Choo bloody choo.
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