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Where is the justice "weepej" in that this driver took the life of an innocent cyclist going about their business and presumably doing nothing wrong at the time :

It is unfortunately drivers like this that get us all a bad name!

£300. 00 for a life even a burglar gets more when they are caught

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Spannernut

True. At times though (as I said before) there is absolutely nothing you can do-as an example I once had someone drive the wrong way up the southbound exit of the m6 at junction 14 (she was stopped 20 yards past the solid white lines at the end of the junction) and join the motorway in front of me at a crawl. It was sudden-almost as though she had floored the accelerator til she got on the motorway then taken her foot off the throttle. The only way I could avoid her was to exit the motorway on the junction across the grass at 56mph. If I hadn't been able to do that she would have been unlikely to survive and there would have been nothing I could do about it.
It's an unfortunate fact of life. No matter how hard you try, people do stupid things and sometimes it's simply not possible to avoid being involved. It doesn't make it a fitting punishment for them when they die and it doesn't stop the nightmares but until people stop doing stupid things it'll carry on happening.



Ref the woman being crushed,I agree. The sentence was shocking-specially as both pieces refer to the 'lorry' as two tonnes. It wasn't an HGV then. If we assume two tonnes was the payload it was at biggest a 7.5 tonner so likely the driver only holds a car licence-and the cab is low enough to see a cyclist! I agree with what Stormin says-it's drivers like this that give us all a bad name. Unfortunately that's what happens when untrained people are allowed out in large vehicles.

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That's what the government want you to believe of me. If they get back in I'm emigrating.

There is an old saying which is "there but for the grace of god go I" and as you have both said and in fairness I think we agree that you can only do so much to avoid an accident but sometimes even with all the forethought and planning in the world things beyond your control will happen and as Nos4r2 says there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.

I would still be traumatised or whatever other feelings if I was involved in a fatal or serious accident even if it wasn,t my fault and as I have always said should that ever happen I, even at my age (nearly 60) would seriously consider finishing driving for a living as I think even if an accident wasn,t my fault I would still think about all the if,I had done this or that (so to speak) this might not have happened but I think anyone who is involved in an accident would go through that thought process.

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"There But For The Grace of God Go I"

"He Who Ain,t Made Mistakes Ain,t Made Anything"

Spannernut

I've seen sentiments, and explicit statments that indicate many don't think they would, i.e. many think they could drive down a road, hit a person that had stepped out, think to themselves "well they shouldn't have been there" and that'd be the end of it...

So have I. But I've also seen someone with that attitude after a completely blameless accident that's killed someone. Someone I used to work with had an old man fall under his back wheels from the path.
He didn't have that attitude afterwards.
In reality it's the bluster and bravado you have to convince yourself of in order to go out and drive 300+ miles every day. If you started every day with the attitude 'I might kill someone today' you'd never get in the truck. It doesn't mean you won't actively do your best to avoid an accident.

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Smokebelching,CO2 making,child murdering planet raping,granny mugging,politically incorrect globally warming (or is it climate changing now it's getting colder?)thug.
That's what the government want you to believe of me. If they get back in I'm emigrating.