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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:33 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7199131.stm
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Call for fuel tax rise to be axed

The increase in fuel duty could make British firms less competitive
More than 700 businesses have called on the chancellor to scrap a planned rise in fuel duty.
The increase of 2p per litre, due to take place in April, will cost the haulage industry £170m, they say.

Fuel duty went up by 2p a litre in October, and the average price of a litre of unleaded is now over 104p.

In a letter to Alistair Darling, the companies said the higher fuel tax would make British hauliers less competitive than their European rivals.

The planned duty rise comes as oil prices hover near $100 a barrel.

"We are alarmed by the signals that the government appears to be sending to such a crucial industry at a time when the economy appears to be stalling," the letter said.

The British Chambers of Commerce said the government must urgently reconsider the tax.

"This is yet another tax on business which further erodes our international competitiveness," said David Frost, director general of the BCC.

A further increase in fuel duty of 1.84p is due in April 2009.

The planned fuel tax increases come after protests at refineries against fuel tax levels in 2000 left Britain struggling for petrol supplies.

The Treasury said fuel duty rates announced in the Budget for the next three years, had provided "certainty" for business and sent the right environmental signals in the fight against climate change.

A spokesman said: "After these changes, by 2010 main fuel duty rates will be 11% lower in real terms than they were in 1999.

"The changes were made alongside reforms to vehicle excise duty that cut rates for less polluting vehicles and a number of measures to support hauliers which they have welcomed."


"The Treasury said fuel duty rates announced in the Budget for the next three years, had provided "certainty" for business :?: and sent the right environmental signals in the fight against climate change.


A guilt edged promise they would be fleaced especialy if fuel prices rise!

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1. "Sends the right message in our fight against climate change" - Indeed. That it's a load of bollocks and it's being demonstrated by the 'fight' consisting of tax rises... :?

2. "A spokesman said: "After these changes, by 2010 main fuel duty rates will be 11% lower in real terms than they were in 1999."
And what, Mr Spokesman, is the VAT in 'real terms' compared with 1999? and the revenue from North Sea oil in real terms in comparison?


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Well we all know its a load of porkies.

Remember when the "Government" replied to the fuel protesters by saying that they couldnt lower taxes on fuel because they needed the revenue to pay for "Schools and hospitals"

Well when you remember that the justification for raising the tax in the first place was to "ecourage economy and reduce consumption"

Well, if people really reduced consumption then the revenue would go down wouldnt it. All they want us to do is use the same and pay more for it!

(or use less and pay Much more for it!)

Why do you think that in the middle of the mildest winter for years we are facing sharp inceaces in gas and electricity prices???

The energy companies are not selling as much fuel as they expected to so have to charge more for it in order to maintain profit levels.

Its the same with all the utilities. we will not save anything by using less because they will have to charge more for each "unit" to maintain profitability and the state will have to tax at heavier levels in order to maintain revenue! :x

But they will never admit that would they!

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No driver-friendly tax changes will be enacted by a Labour govt. The best we can hope for is a freeze on duties should the Tories win in 2010.

The govt changes is stance to suit the particular situation it's facing. They're all for the "one size fits all" mode of legislation in areas such as education, but take the opposite stance on other matters. For example, I wrote to Alistair Darling a few years ago, inquiring as to why diesel costs more than petrol, in Britain, whereas in most other European countries, diesel is only about ¾ the cost of petrol. The matter was handed on to someone working at what is now known as HM Customs and Revenue, and I received a response indicating that the govt "sees no reason for harmonisation with other EU member states" with regard to fuel duties.


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DieselMoment wrote:
I wrote to Alistair Darling a few years ago, inquiring as to why diesel costs more than petrol, in Britain, whereas in most other European countries, diesel is only about ¾ the cost of petrol.


Diesel was cheaper in the UK at one time, it’s only because allot more people started buying Diesel cars, and that the government couldn’t loose out on taxes, that it went higher than petrol.

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Dixie wrote:
Diesel use to be cheaper in the UK, it’s only because allot more people started buying Diesel cars, and that the government couldn’t loose out on taxes, that it went higher than petrol.

Diesel used to be cheaper in the UK because the tax was lower. The tax on diesel and petrol was equalised in the early 90s. Diesel is not more expensive because the government tax it more.

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PeterE wrote:
Dixie wrote:
Diesel use to be cheaper in the UK, it’s only because allot more people started buying Diesel cars, and that the government couldn’t loose out on taxes, that it went higher than petrol.

Diesel used to be cheaper in the UK because the tax was lower. The tax on diesel and petrol was equalised in the early 90s. Diesel is not more expensive because the government tax it more.


Pete, you say the tax on diesel was lower until they equalised it, so surely that was an increase in tax on diesel. Now that diesel is more expensive than petrol, I see this as a raise in taxation because, Mr Brown will now get a bigger share from the revenue raised. I thought at one time (when they wanted us all to switch to diesel) the cost of diesel was lower because it was seen as better for the environment.

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