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Oh, boy! You know, if my eyesight wasn't a bit wonky, I'd buy one of these!

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£1065

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I know two people who bought these Royal Enfield bikes. One from the nearest dealer in the Midlands, the other flew out to India, bought it from their showroom and rode it back to the UK! :D

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I love that bit on the site where you move over a picture of the bike and it shows that bit in close up. Very flash (pun intended!)


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£1065

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


By the time they get to the uk they are £2195

Still not bad value though...if you are in to that sort of thing.

http://www.royal-enfield.com/prices.htm

£5K+ for the top spec bike is a bit of a piss take though.

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Don't like the wheels.
Seem solid alloy, and the hub/spoke section seems a bit small.

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I used to work on and off for the importers of these. Given their usual customer base I doubt they'll sell many.

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I used to work on and off for the importers of these. Given their usual customer base I doubt they'll sell many.


Oh, they will. They'll sell shed loads! 'Cos it is a website aimed at people in India! :)

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I used to work on and off for the importers of these. Given their usual customer base I doubt they'll sell many.


Oh, they will. They'll sell shed loads! 'Cos it is a website aimed at people in India! :)


Well, yeah...but I doubt they'll sell many here IF they start to import them.

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I used to work on and off for the importers of these. Given their usual customer base I doubt they'll sell many.


Oh, they will. They'll sell shed loads! 'Cos it is a website aimed at people in India! :)


Well, yeah...but I doubt they'll sell many here IF they start to import them.


Oh I dont know.

I'm quite tempted with the "Army"

Looks like a two wheel Land Rover! right up my street! :D

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the place where my low performance motorcycle gets its MOT has a royal enfield dealership.

For about the price of a decent late/ nearly new SV650s, that goes well, stops well and always starts you can have a new Royal Enfield with period features.


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Had one of these in a box for some years now. Trouble with the Indian ones is that they got the tooling for the older style of frame. Mine has the later style which is much more pleasing to the eye. Less "bitty".
I guess the buzz with one of these is trying to get around that bend at 50mph that you took easily at 90mph on the Fireblade. The upside being that your more likely to survive coming off the Enfield at 50 :lol:


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This proves that the Royal Enfield brand and the others in the UK could have survived had they not made such stupid decisions. IDIOTS! :x

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Thatsnews. I'm not sure I follow you. Could you elaborate a little please?


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Maaarrghk! wrote:
Thatsnews. I'm not sure I follow you. Could you elaborate a little please?


Hmmm same here. There are a lot of reasons why a business fails. I can't wait to hear this theory.

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There is a British Royal Enfield Club in the UK. I was a friend of one of it's members. I have to say I once visited a garage near Barnsley which was Fabulous! Full of "Royal Enfields" in as new showroom condition and spare parts for models long gone hung around it's walls, and THAT was over 25 yrs ago!...

His car was rusting away outside BTW! :roll: :lol:

I know that they're still being being made in India under licence but that should be a source of pride for us here in the UK. The Bike, like ALL the British bikes had one important feature........

The owner could strip them down, get the parts, and repair them themselves instead of being a slave of a dealer who demands a fortune for a repair and refuses to part with any information with which to repair it yourself! An all too frequent experience among modern Bikers and Motorists.........

Good on 'Em!......I say..........

May they long prevail!....

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The story is this:

British bike makers thought: "Coo! We'd better do something to counter these Japanese motorbikes!"

They thought about it and decided that the best thing they could do would be to abandon the lower capacity (cc) market to the Japanese, whilst they would build massive 800/100cc bikes.

The flaw in their plan was that in so doing they at a stroke wiped out any chance of British youngsters starting out on British bikes! They forced them to buy lower capacity Japanese bikes.

Now, if you buy a Japanese 125, learn to ride and want something a bit bigger, you would buy a Japanese 250. And of course, once you'd passed your test you'd buy a lovely British 800/1000cc bike, wouldn't you? No. Probably you'd stick with a Japanese bike. Go up to a 500cc and maybe go up to 800/1000cc a bit later.

The bottom did not fall out of the UK bike market, the management wilfully kicked it out. :x

The British bike makers struggled on so you got vile monsters created like the Tribsa (Triumph/BSA) but it was all down hill on a greased course of their own making.

A cousin was the president of a chapter of Hell's Angels. He told me that the rule was only British bikes and no Japanese bikes at all.

Eventually as British bikes became so scarce they had to abolish that rule and allow people to join who owned Japanese bikes. He wasn't happy with that, but he realised it couldn't be helped.

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Agreed totally Thatsnews, ....

But it was also a tech. revolution which took the maintenance from the owner to the Manufacturer......

Performance was of course better..... but if you wanted an Owner repairable machine? .....

To be sure, it was about a step change in Global manufacture and application of technology in the cheapest area of Employment..............


Now where have we all heard that before?..............

First the motorbikes, then everything else!..... :roll:


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Draco wrote:
Agreed totally Thatsnews, ....

But it was also a tech. revolution which took the maintenance from the owner to the Manufacturer......

Performance was of course better..... but if you wanted an Owner repairable machine? .....

To be sure, it was about a step change in Global manufacture and application of technology in the cheapest area of Employment..............


Now where have we all heard that before?..............

First the motorbikes, then everything else!..... :roll:


I remember some years ago talking to a propriotor of a "bike breakers" shop.

Of course they wernt really breaking old bikes, they were buying new ones under assumed names and stripping them for spares.

Of course the $tealers were on to this and tried to stop them but the point is that (according to this chap) the manufacturers would

1) change the specs every 18 months or so so that second hand parts would not be compatable

2) charge about ten times as much for the spares as the bike cost (IE bulding a bike out of its "spares" would cost about ten times as much as the original bike IYSWIM)

Of course at this time the car manufacturers were not yet on to this game.

But it was only a matter of time.... :(

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The situation was somewhat more complicated than that.

Firstly the Japanese had access to the lucrative small engine bike market (China) to fuel its developemnt program in small machines. Lets not forget that most "Japanese" small bikes are actualy made in China.

Secondly UK bike manufacturers had a weak financial base, as did the car industry. Japanese motorcycle manufacturers are owned by much larger institutions who are able to invest in the long term.

Thirdly If you think that our stratergy on large bike production was wrong just look at BMW. I don't see them making learner legal bikes. Yet again, they have financial stability of a strong parent company

Finaly we suffered from the great British lack of patriotism. I was involved on the Norton bike program in the 70s and 80s. At that time they were devloping the rotary ngine bike and were bidding for the lucrative Police bike contract. Even though they produced what was a more reiable and durable macine than the competition (trials proved that) the Derbyshire Police technical centre went with a foreign bike. Shortly after Norton went bust. In my opinion if they had chosen the Norton they would probably still be in business today.

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