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On a roundabout with two exits, where straight on is the second exit, that's correct.

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-mike[F]
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I beg to differ.

Rule 162 of the highway code isn't very clear.



In my opinion if you are taking the second exit or one lying at or before 12o'clock then signalling is not necessary and creates confusion. The only signals necessary are to indicate left before leaving the roundabout.

The diagram shows the blue car (bottom right) going straight on not indicating right. It also shows a second car at the top right entrance not indicating but in the right hand lane therefore obviously not turning left.

No, I am referring to a roundabout with only two exits (barring the one you arrive on).

(warning, bad diagram follows)



A driver arriving at the bottom of this roundabout, who wants to go on, should indicate right. At least, that's what my driving instructor told me. I think he said it's not necessarily a legal requirement, but it helps traffic coming the other way know where you are going. (Although they could of course then get confused with whether you're actually going to do a U-turn..)

Edit: Your extract from the HC confirms it:-

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-mike[F]
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And worse still, the diagram is in conflict with the text. The red car going for third exit is indicating right in the diagram, but the text does not recommend this indication. The keepers of the code are aware of the error, but won't repair it until the next edition. (i.e. reprints continue the error).

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Yes, you should ensure they are turning - but you must be ready to move out and start on your way as they start to turn - you can tell as they position their vehicles. If you wait too long the chance will be missed.



When was that? I took my test in January 1986 and they had them then.

But clearly I think not enough people have been instructed properly how to use them.

By the way, if the person in front of you is turning left and you are intending to move ahead, you are supposed to wait for them to finish and enter the roundabout after them. You are not supposed to try passing them. I have known occasions where I moved out as the person on my right was turning left, only to be hooted by the driver behind them attempting to "pass" them.

Is this the case even if there are two (or maybe even three) separate lanes in which you wait to enter the roundabout? It would seem to defeat the point of having the lanes, if it is.

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-mike[F]
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No I'm referring to a mini-roundabout with a single lane of entry. I didn't know there were any mini-roundabouts with multiple entry lanes.

One thing I have observed though concerning roundabouts with 2 lanes of entry - I am in the left lane and there is a large vehicle on my right which moves out, and the person in front of me sits there and waits, when it is "obvious" that they can also go because they will be sheltered by the vehicle on their right.

I took mine around the same time, maybe a year earlier.

Mini roundabouts did exist (but as I said they werea rarity). As far as I can recall there were none on the (Cross Gates, Leeds) test routes at the time (there are now). And my driving instructor never took me near one. OK, yes my instructor was rubbish and knowing what I know now I would have sacked him after the first few lessons, but how was I to know that at 17 with no driving experience?

IRT multi lane mini-roundabouts: I know a few, I'm fairly certain some of the ones in Halifax have at least two lanes on some approaches.

Yep there are several round here with two lanes for entry. And the Magic Roundabout has three lanes entering each mini-roundabout!

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-mike[F]
Caught in the rush of the crowd, lost in a wall of sound..