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Saw these for the first time yesterday. Even the lines across the road are smaller..







Wonder how visible it will all be once it becomes weathered and the hedges and trees become more overgrown

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No doubt they'll keep the hedge in front of the camera cut, but not behind it.

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That's a Redspeed camera

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

Haven't seen them anywhere in the Midlands before. It's not being used to monitor traffic at a junction so I'm not sure why they haven't used the conventional type instead, like they have a further mile up the road.

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

That's interesting - I wonder what right they have to cut your hedge?

If it were my house I'd start feeding my conifers on Miracle Grow and tell them to bugger off.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Same right you have to cut down their pole if it intrudes on your garden , I wouild think

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Down south, we started getting Redspeeds a few years ago, and since then I haven't seen any Gatsos or Truvelos being installed permanently at new locations or as replacements for existing sites. Gatsos are still used from time to time on temporary roadwork installations (although it's now more likely that they'll be using SPECS instead), and new permanent SPECS setups are also appearing here and there, but it looks as if the Redspeed is now the de facto standard camera for all permanent spot measurement cameras. I suspect there's a few reasons for this...

1. consistency of equipment - same camera used for both speed and redlight roles, rather than having a hodge-podge of different cameras

2. potentially more resistant to attack - be in the look-out for people carrying cans of spraypaint and a really long ladder

3. digital cameras with permanent datalink back to the processing office - no film collection/replacement costs, photos available immediately rather than after however many days they've been sat in the camera waiting to be collected, no risk of offences being missed because the film has run out, etc. etc.

4. slightly more stealthy... smaller, higher mounted, housing isn't quite as obvious as the larger lower Gatso/Truvelo boxes, and no radar emissions to detect

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

Probably in a by-law or something in the leashold of the property that places the onus on the poperty owner to keep the hedge trimmed to prevent overgrowth onto the adjacent pathway.

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I have a story...

If you replace that scamera with a big tree, you have a similar situation to my house.

That damn tree bugged me to the max! As a friend of mine once said, "they're lovely but you don't want them near your house".

Twigs dropping, sap piddling like glue on everything, leaves blocking your gutter, magpies fighting for supremacy $h1tt1ng and squawking, roots undermining your foundations- it got worse with each passing year.

It drove me nuts!

This thing grew to the size of A-Bomb mushroom until one day, in a high wind, branches were breaking off putting people at the bus stop in danger.

This was at a time, ~4 years ago now, when some trees fell over in the high winds and one incident in particular killed a driver in Birmingham

Surely this tree from hell was unsafe and I could get something done at last?

I wrote to the council who, pretty much, blew me off! (No pun intended)

The moral of this story? A scamera makes more money than a tree.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

The relevant legislation is the good old Highways Act 1980. Yes they can cut your hedge but first they have to serve a notice on you telling you to do it and if you don't the local council can do the work and send you the bill. However before they can do that the hedge is obstructing the sight line of a driver or other road user, blocking a street light or sign. You also have 21 days in which to appeal to a magistrates court that the requirement to cut is unreasonable.

That's got to be the main reason. Also no need for anyone to go out to the camera.
Software at head office does OCR, the whole process is fairly automated.

Is that a telephone pole the control box just happens to be right next to?

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Andrew.

I think so. What's the relevance of it Ziltro? Is that box the brains for the scamera? Is it easier/cheaper to send the pictures back if it's close to a telephone pole or something?

BTW. That Ian seems to know his stuff. Kinda guy you'd like next to you in court

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I pass one of these on the A303 from time to time.

Is it me or do they look more evil than other camera types?

It's me, isn't it?

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2. potentially more resistant to attack - be in the look-out for people carrying cans of spraypaint and a really long ladder

3. digital cameras with permanent datalink back to the processing office - no film collection/replacement costs, photos available immediately rather than after however many days they've been sat in the camera waiting to be collected, no risk of offences being missed because the film has run out, etc. etc.

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Like everything else in this world -needs comms and power .So scrub the long ladder and get a white van ,with manhole lifters and some insulated cutters

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

You're right!

If you squint it looks like Blunderstrom's face; vacuous expression, small low forehead, eyes bereft of soul, complete with the yellow streak of a coward hiding behind the comfort of a mothering judicial apron.

(Can I get away with that Ian? )

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

That is the control box. There's a whole computer in there. At least it has temperature sensors so it can deactivate when it's not in the correct range (Unlike Gatsos which have a temperature range but apparently no sensors... Reasonable doubt much?)
If you open the door then you've got a short period of time in which to enter the password otherwise it'll erase the private keys from memory.
Well I think that's funny anyway.

Telephone pole. Well where do you think its comms wires run? Down the side probably.
But then these things are easy to turn off, or at least I've seen two gatsos which have a small box near them for power. All you need is a triangle key. Probably illegal though.

No, they do. Someone suggested Cyberman once. In fact I made a photo of a yellow-headed Cyberman. I wonder where that is...

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Andrew.

Can't say I know much about libel but would not think that you have too much to worry about - more chance of being caught by one of you know whose dam cameras.

I am convinced that these posts are suicide posts ....
Anyone know if they are internally 'softened' ?

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They have changed the rules on hedge cutting. Once upon a time us farmer types could cut at will (I quite like hedge cutting) to keep the place looking tidy. But hedge cutters are quite brutal machines and if you are a bird tying to rear your chicks, not very friendly. So no we can only cut hedges err, between September and the end of feb I think. Anyway, we can't do it when we want anymore.

So may have noticed the verges don't get cut like they once did, and that is for the same reason. They only cut them when and where road safety is an issue. So with that in mind, as we all agree that speed cameras don't help road safety, it would be better if the hedge covered up said camera so it didn't work, thus saving lives .