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 Post subject: PCSO Powers?
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 05:29 
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Hi All, .. Can anyone advise? Today my wife was chatting with her friend on the phone....

It seems that she was pulled over for the heinous crime of "SPEEDING!".......OMG!!! :o (Child Killer!...Child Killer!) Humane killer over here quick!

I'm not sure of the details yet but it seems that she passed a typical scam.........and was then stopped further down the road by a PCSO!
Do they have the power to stop and report? I doubted it and it's the first time that I've heard of these people being used in this way..


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 21:32 
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I wouldn't stop for one.


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 Post subject: Re: PCSO Powers?
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 01:26 
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I wouldn't stop for one.


Me neither, unless bits of them need to be removed from my wheelarch. :twisted:


Worst case scenario is that they can do you for this, but if your wife had just passed a scam then you'll have to argue that the police are now prosecuting you twice for the same offence. Was she actually given a ticket or an NIP (bearing in mind that an NIP can be verbal). We really need more details here.


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:08 
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is it a welsh thing?


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 Post subject: Re: PCSO Powers?
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:44 
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Round here at least, the PCSOs drive around in cars which don't have blue lights. Clearly they're not allowed to stop vehicles while they're in their car, so presumably the same thing applies when they're on foot.

The PCSO who "polices" this large but quiet village has been helpfully ticketing cars which are parked on quiet side roads, at night, on recently painted double yellow lines which are blatantly unnecessary (and trust me, no reasonable person would disagree). AFAIK, no-one but a few local busybodies (there's always a few) actually wants such a "service". Still, I suppose it's easier for him than trying to deal with the teenagers who hang around and indulge in petty vandalism. They'd probably laugh at him and hurt his feelings. Much better to pick on old people who usually aren't even present. So once again it's a case of the motorist being the easy target, and such targetting now appears to be spreading to villages from the cities, towns and suburbs.

On the whole, I haven't been too impressed with PCSOs so far. It's a much better idea to get rid of the insane amount of form-filling that real police officers have to do and get them out on the beat. Real criminals are more scared of real police than real police are of them; sadly, I think the reverse is probably true between real criminals and PCSOs. And if I was in a crime-ridden area then I'd be far more reassured by one police officer than four PCSOs. There's no substitute for the immediate presence of an officer with the power and the means to restrain and arrest people.

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is it a welsh thing?


Not sure, I'm about as Welsh as Richard Brunstrom. (which is to say I just happen to live in Wales, and that's it)


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 01:16 
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Thanks for the replies Guys and sorry that I took so long to get back......

I don't know....it seems a bit .... iffy to me. But today I took the wife to the Doctors surgery, on the road outside as we arrived was a PCSO just standing there, .......................waiting a while in the car park(hence the long string of dots)......guess what? A Camera van rolled up from the opposite direction from the one which I'd arrived, and picked him up!
Was he just waiting for a lift? ....or was he the: "Stop man" I wonder?


Oh! P.S. I haven't heard the full story from the wifes friend yet.....


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Oh I'm sure PCSO scum and other such people have their uses. As mentioned, they free up the "real" police.

Only the other day I saw two "real" police who had stopped their marked police car and were... Installing an advertising poster on a railway bridge.

Now that's something PCSO scum couldn't possibly be trusted with. Nor any other non-police people.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 02:37 
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I do hope that it wasn't Teflon coated like they are!.................... :roll: "whoops"


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