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As if we have not already got enough problems with conjestion, it looks as if they are now going ahead with fitting limiters to everything over 3.5 tons.

This is madness

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Steve

Great - and we can look forward to them clogging up lane 3 on 4-lane motorways.

Yep..bring all m/way speed limits to 56mph, but hey, no one will be able to get a speeding ticket.

in a way the Government have kicked themselves in the teeth

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Steve

I thought limiters to 56MPH (90km/hr) were already installed in all trucks above 3.5tons all over in Europe, since the mid 90's. But not in the UK then?

...except trains, of course

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Peter

Not all trucks over 3.5T are governed to 56mph Peter.

I drive an HGV and we are stuck to 56mph, however, the 7.5T have a different threshold. I know it use to be 70mph, but not being involved with them it may changed. One thing I do know however, 56mph, it ain't

Until now the 7.5t-12t goods vehicle has, since 1994 (you were right Paul ) been restricted to 60mph, the 12t+ goods vehicles to 56mph. This will be extended across the board to 56mph for all over 3.5t, and retrospective fits to vehicles first used on or after 2001. (goods vehicles <7.5t used only nationally will not need to be limited until 2008).
Coaches and minibuses also have similar restrictions.

As far as I'm aware, There have been no legally required limiters on goods vehicles below 7.5t until now, and they have always been allowed to travel up to 70mph on motorways.

VOSA has good info on these changes with PDFs covering the detail.


It's a bad move. It takes the thought out of driving. I'd much rather have active speed limit compliance. (Within the tolerances of course )

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It's worth mentioning that the much-maligned UK government in fact opposed this change but were outvoted by other EU countries.

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Pete317 Wrote:

...except trains, of course

A station I passed through the other day (very busy and in a built up area) in London had a sign just at the start of the station saying HST-80MPH i.e. High speed trains are allowed to do 80MPH through a station in an urban area

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Andrew

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Yet the 'reason' they give for 50mph limits at motorway 'roadworks' is that cars passing at greater speeds can 'suck' workers onto the roadway.
But they allow high-speed trains to thunder through stations at 80mph, past platforms filled with people.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-trains - just anti-double standards and hypocricy.

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Peter

They have never had a limiter, which makes all the differance. As we get the same situaction with LGV's, minimal speed differance, with everything over 3.5 ton, goods vehicles.

Not sure that it effects coaches, as they do not come under the goods vehicle rules.

Never been able to understand that one, why are coaches not restricted the same as LGV?

They are running high weights and are full of passengers

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Steve

However, as always, it will only be the UK, that carries out the stringent enforcement.

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Steve

Coaches now have to have limiters set at 100 km/h (62.5 mph). On most people's speedos this registers in the 66-70 mph area so it's not so obvious that they are limited.

The regulations that bring in 90 km/h limiters for goods vehicles over 3.5 tonnes will also bring in 100 km/h limiters for all vehicles capable of carrying more than 8 passengers.

Amazing when you think that, soon after the M1 opened in 1959, Midland Red coaches were regularly (and legally) running up and down it at 80 mph.

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55*80kg = 4.4 tonnes.

And of course the load doesn't tend to move (or slosh) around.

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Depends how much food and drink has been consumed before boarding

It's a crumb of comfort from all this that coaches aren't limited to the same speed as lorries

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Care to elaborate on that one

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Steve

Did you forget the 9 tonne chassis?

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Steve

Yes, I read that in one or other EU-report. The UK government was opposed because they feared serious problems with local congestion on motorways caused by trucks overtaking at speed differences of less than 1 MPH (and right they were). But I thought it came to a EU legislation anyway. I am quite surprised to learn the UK did not join after all.