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Every car could be fitted with an RDS or RDS-like device.

When a car is approaching a change of speed limit a chime would sound in the unit and a voice would say something like: "You are leaving a 40mph zone and about to enter a 30mph zone in xx yards."

Or it could say: "You are approaching a school in XX yards."

Perhaps it could also offer traffic warnings? Road ahead blocked by accident." It could then send data to sat navs and/or provide a diversionary route for you.

The units could be placed in speed signs and or in lamp posts, traffic lights, etc.

It would help ensure drivers knew in advance in unfamiliar areas what the speed limit was. It would also mean that unknown hazards could be known to every driver.

This would improve road safety, but is unlikely to be used to replace speed cameras. As THEY make money, my idea would only -possibly- save lives.

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We need to end the obsession with numerical speed - not add to it.

We need to value the fundamental driver skills more than we value the rules.

Schemes like this would nudge the 'balance of importances' in the wrong direction.

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to an extent this is what GPS devices do with accident blackspots....

take away the speed limit nannying and have sensible warnings about blackspots, residential areas and other fixed hazards...

not an altogether terrible idea.

some of the EU projects on car to car telemetry & roadside to car telemetry might already cover this kind of information.

I'd disable it straight away.

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Good point. But at least it would give people a base line. There are some roads that defy the general rule of how many street lights mean there is a a certain speed limit.

With a device that tells you the limit is 30 and not 40 as one would have expected , no Scamera numpty would be able to say: "well, you should have KNOWN the limit by counting the number of manhole covers in the road.

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But I would suggest locations where the speed limit is genuinely ambiguous are few and far between.

And, in general, the reason why people speed isn't that they are ignorant of the speed limit.

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well yes.. so would i probably.... doesnt mean its not of benefit to some

Slightly cheaper alternative would be that drivers could always use their eyes...

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Yes. But with one school approach cluttered with 20+ signs, and trees obscuring speed signs, sometimes drivers need more than their eyes.

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Perhaps less clutter in the first place?

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There is enough technology to fit every vehicle with techno crap that just reduces their need to pay attention, and that is always a danger.

This sort of idea is of that mentality that sticks signs on a packet of peanuts "this contains nuts",or the other brilliant one shown to me to night by mrs B -looking at the handbook for her new oven"do not place aerosals in the oven "
In another vein - we had a lecture at work about driving over the gravel dividing two parts of a car park - and anyone caught doing so would face a month ban .Reason - cables were burried in the gravel -

Point of all this diatribe - treat people like adults,with a sense of reasoning ,forget controls,forget sticks - if there is a reason for taking a course of action - first advise & educate - something our lawmakers forget (perhaps they think we're all as pig thick (apologies to pigs) as them )

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ditto. if it tells you whats coming up, it knows where you are. if it knows where you are, THEY know where you are!

lets not add to this nanny state, id card, we are watching you mentality

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Suprised no-ones said such devices already exist as a side advantage of GPS based speed scam device warners.

But yeah, like said exact speed is not of overiding importance.

What about, instead of a speed scam, a roadsign that means accident blackspot? Many people would instinctively consider their speed, but without staring at the speedo. Those not inclined to heed the sign would generally be held up by those that do. Probably result in a bigger accident decline than that currently claimed as a success by speed scams.

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OR SLIGHTLY non PC idea -


fit each car with an educated trained driver ,with highly trained specialilists watching out for transgressions -

Familiour idea - was common place in the bad old 60's .Drivers were trained /educated etc .And the specialists - YEP -Guessed right - old PC Traffic plod , ready to dish out advice /critism tickets et all (funny thing Durham does this rather well ).OH -weren't accident figures etc lower then ( funny Durham has that distinction too today ).

So the conclusion to this experiment is - fit roads with highly trained traffic police - to educate , critise and make the public aware of their failures .

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Wouldnt it be better to have one that simply said loudly and clearly..PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DRIVING YOU MUPPET, OR THIS DEVICE WILL AUTOMATICALLY REPORT YOU TO THE POLICE!

[quote="Herbie J

Wouldnt it be better to have one that simply said loudly and clearly..PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DRIVING YOU MUPPET, OR THIS DEVICE WILL AUTOMATICALLY REPORT YOU TO THE POLICE! [/quote]

We've had that sort of policy for years -and the decrease in road safety shows us how well that's working - like cameras this would only target speed, not dangerous/drunk /no licence/insurance /etc etc .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

We've had that sort of policy for years -and the decrease in road safety shows us how well that's working - like cameras this would only target speed, not dangerous/drunk /no licence/insurance /etc etc .[/quote]

I disagree, Ive never seen a sign saying 'PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DRIVING YOU MUPPET' perhaps signs like this may well work.

[quote="Herbie J
I disagree, Ive never seen a sign saying 'PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DRIVING YOU MUPPET' perhaps signs like this may well work. [/quote]

Possibly - once the plethora of useless signs and street furniture has been removed .But then that don't agree with Labour's ideas - certainly no profit there ---and don't you know "all road safety systems should be self sustaining "(which just means that motorists should pay for them ,one way or another )

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Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Probably? I'm not a betting man, but I'd wager pretty heavily on this one.

If the sign could also succinctly describe an effective precautionary action, I think that would be perfect. (Even the gov't would like this. Instead of removing all of the road furniture that made it a black spot, just add one more. Still, it'd be exceedingly effective.)


This isn't nearly as succinct as I'd like, but it explains the problem, and what the individual road user should do to prevent it's reoccurence. It's also cheaper and easier than redesigning the black spot. What's not to like?

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