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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 18:51 
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:gatso2: What, thousands of disqualified drivers still on our roads? Never! I don't believe it!

"Disqualified drivers cannot be detected by speed cameras. And if they are driving properly taxed cars, it is unlikely they will be stopped by increasingly rare traffic patrols."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -test.html

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 21:54 
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Well dur! How has it taken them so long to realise that is exactly what happens when you rely on automated enforcement. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 14:29 
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You can always rely on the Mail to report the blindingly obvious. The reason speed cameras are called speed cameras and not disqualified driver cameras is because they are designed to detect speed above the posted limit and not the legal status of the driver.

You would be laughed at if you wanted to do away with polio vaccine on the grounds that it doesn't prevent or detect broken legs. Those who wish to see the end of speed cameras need to get away from criticising cameras for failing to do things they were never intended to do and concentrate on whether or not anything beneficial is achieved by the detection of speeding drivers.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 17:41 
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Fisherman, the problem is that they keep increasing the dose of speed camera medicine in the vain hope that it will improve road safety while simultaneously reducing other forms of more effective treatment.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 17:53 
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fisherman wrote:
Those who wish to see the end of speed cameras need to get away from criticising cameras for failing to do things they were never intended to do and concentrate on whether or not anything beneficial is achieved by the detection of speeding drivers.

This is a little too simple. It's the diversion of finite resources from, for example, road engineering or traffic police to funding cameras which makes them so pernicious. This is why it is easy for us (and the press) to point out that road safety priorities are wrong if disqualified drivers can carry on regardless.

While the current system raises huge amounts of money then whatever we argue will fall on deaf ears.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 03:07 
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I remain blissfully content that one day this madness about the subject of road policing must end and that a return to sanity, common sense and proper governance will return to this Isle (set in an emerald sea). Of course I could be wrong........... :gatso1: :shhh: :loco: Never mind, my minders are taking me for a day out next week! Hope its Blackpool! I love to ride the donkeys....burble burble yick! yick! Dacka Dacka Dacka!.....OOOOoooooo! look! Watch the Birdie! :gatso3:


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Ah erm!...Yes.....well I er! am so sorry for my last post. You see, I had to drive last Friday down to the Big Smoke and back....and er well, this is how the experience of driving the camera ridden roads of Britain leaves you. .........er, you won't tell anyone about the donkeys will you? :oops:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 08:17 
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You would be laughed at if you wanted to do away with polio vaccine on the grounds that it doesn't prevent or detect broken legs.


But if a medical Paul Smith was to demonstrate that

a) the polio vaccine did not reduce the incidence of polio, merely redistributed it
b) the use of polio vaccine was increasing the number of broken legs
c) the cost of the vaccine was preventing research into the cause of broken legs

there would be large headlines in the papers

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 09:59 
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fisherman wrote:
You can always rely on the Mail to report the blindingly obvious. The reason speed cameras are called speed cameras and not disqualified driver cameras is because they are designed to detect speed above the posted limit and not the legal status of the driver.

You would be laughed at if you wanted to do away with polio vaccine on the grounds that it doesn't prevent or detect broken legs. Those who wish to see the end of speed cameras need to get away from criticising cameras for failing to do things they were never intended to do and concentrate on whether or not anything beneficial is achieved by the detection of speeding drivers.


So when I see all those sign advising of "Safety Cameras" or a "Road Safety Partnership" van they're not using speed cameras?

The argument is not about what they're called and what they do - it's about putting all the road safety eggs into one electronic, automated basket. (If you don't mind a mixed metaphor!)

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fisherman wrote:
You would be laughed at if you wanted to do away with polio vaccine on the grounds that it doesn't prevent or detect broken legs.


Likewise, you'd be laughed at if you wanted to use the polio vaccine to treat broken legs.

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