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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/transp ... ory=515581

We're MAD as hell...

He's a modern-day folk hero who says speed cameras are highway robbery. His followers have wrecked 750 of them. So, asks Malcolm Macalister Hall, who is Captain Gatso?

27 April 2004

Captain Gatso won't meet me face to face, on the grounds that "some of the press wants to expose me". He'll reveal only that he's a "Londoner in his late thirties" and a "family man, with a responsible job". And a mobile number. And a Tony Blair joke-shop mask. That's all. When he calls, it's on his mobile. "Can't let you have my landline," he says conspiratorially. "That would be giving the game away, wouldn't it?"

Captain Gatso has become famous for wearing the foolishly-grinning Blair mask on stunts and photo-opportunities to publicise the underground group of pro-car, anti-speed camera activists Motorists Against Detection, or MAD for short. Speed cameras on motorways and open roads, he insists, serve merely to fleece Britain's drivers. "They're part of this Government's continuing war on the motorist - and who's this Government headed by? Mr Blair. That's why I wear the mask."

The mock-superhero name is inspired by Maurice Gatsonides, the Dutch former rally-driver who invented the speed trap named after him - the gatsometer, or gatso. Founded in 1958 and based in the Dutch town of Haarlem, Gatsometer BV now sells its speed-detection equipment to 50 countries. In Britain, its cameras cost £32,000 each. In the past two years, MAD claims to have vandalised, disabled, blown up or destroyed in some manner about 750 speed cameras on our roads. Many of them have been repeatedly attacked.

"It goes," says Captain Gatso, "from very low-level criminal damage: stickers or spray-paint on the lenses. Then 'necklacing', which is a tyre filled with petrol," which is then hung over the camera box and set alight. "Then there's 'decapitation' [where the camera is felled with an angle-grinder], or a vehicle reversing into it to knock it over. Then there's shotguns and things like that, up to e-x-p-l-o-s-i-v-e-s," he says, spelling the word out.

"You can't say it, because then you get the authorities listening in on your calls. But yes, some people have got extreme, and members of ours have worked in quarries and got hold of stuff." Captain Gatso says cameras have been blown up in Northamptonshire, in Northern Ireland, and on the A37 in Somerset.

MAD, he claims, now has almost 300 members, "from Northern Ireland, to the Highlands of Scotland, to the south coast of England, and everywhere in between". Their actions clearly constitute criminal damage, and perhaps conspiracy. So, he says, they keep in touch with each other via encrypted e-mails.

"This is an orchestrated, organised effort. Yes, we do damage the cameras, and yes, the authorities do put them back up and, yes, they do get done again. But we do not touch cameras sited in proper accident black-spots, or built-up areas. Those cameras, we applaud. We want to see more of them. But it's the revenue-generators we go after; the ones on major trunk roads, motorways and main roads. Because 75 per cent of accidents happen in built-up areas, and that's where the cameras should be.

"What we object to is the sheer injustice and the non-discretionary nature of the cameras. Anyone who has access to a motor vehicle will have exceeded a posted speed limit at some time in their life, whether it's a 17-year-old who's just passed his test, or my Nan. Thereby, in the eyes of the law, we are all criminals."

For Britain's 32 million drivers, speed cameras are an increasingly contentious issue, regarded by many as a major daily irritant. A flash from a loaded camera can result in a £60 fine and three penalty points on your licence - even if it's at 5am on a deserted dual carriageway. Drivers paid £73m in speed-camera fines last year.

But in 2002 - the latest year for which figures are available - 3,431 people were killed in UK road accidents and nearly 36,000 seriously injured. This week, if fate deals its usual cards, 66 people will die on Britain's roads. If this slaughter were caused by any other form of transport there'd be uproar. But, amazingly, Britain has the safest roads in Europe, mile for mile.

Captain Gatso, meanwhile, has the unshakeable conviction of the libertarian, single-issue activist. Speed cameras, he says, are "a cancer spreading across the Western world". MAD have been described as "terrorists" by a senior police officer. "The copper should buy himself a dictionary, because all we're terrorising is this Government's and the police's cash machines," retorts Captain Gatso.

"The people doing this are not just a bunch of vandals - there's something more. We wanted to politicise this issue. Questions have been asked about us in the Scottish and British parliaments. And I would suggest that speed cameras will be an important part of any serious party's manifesto at the next general election. With this Government's continuing war against the motorist, the 32-million strong voting, motoring public are coming to the end of their tether.

"We talk about the fun and games and the criminal damage, but it's a much more serious, contentious issue than that. We keep on doing this to keep the issue in the limelight, and then we leave it to 'proper' people, like the motoring organisations, to address it and lobby it correctly."

He says his crusade began in 2000. "It kicked off when a few family members got caught on the same camera in north-west London. I don't really want to say any more. But I'm a fair-weather motorcyclist, and having a lot of biker friends, it mushroomed from there."

On legal advice, he insists that he is purely a spokesman for MAD. "Yes, I do know what goes on, but I'm not going to say to you that I am an architect of the group, or that what I say goes. That may or may not be the case. We have a campaigns director - who may or may not be me - but I can tell you that I have never gone round disabling cameras. But we have plenty of members who do."

If he is ever arrested, he believes, he would face serious charges. "I think that they would probably try to make an example of me. We are very careful because we don't want to be infiltrated. We have had the odd - you know - near miss." So he varies his routes to and from work, and watches for people tailing him.

On the road, he treats speed limits as "purely advisory". He says he owns one of the fastest production motorcycles currently available, with a top speed of about 180mph. "I very rarely look at the speedometer. I will ride to the limits of the bike and myself - but only if the conditions are right." And yet, he insists, he has never been successfully prosecuted on speed-camera evidence.

"I live in central London, but my vehicles are registered miles away, north of the border. I have acquaintances who have wodges of unpaid tickets for motoring offences." He says the boom in fines for speeding and parking offences creates an underclass of motorists who are incorrectly or illegally registering their vehicles to company post-office box numbers or acquaintances' addresses - anywhere the penalty notices won't find them. Already one in 20 motorists is thought to be driving without insurance. "Mayor Ken Livingstone's plan to put cameras all over London will just encourage more people not to register their vehicles properly," he says. "If you go into a pub it's spoken about all the time, and what scams people use to get off tickets. It's a political hot potato."

Road-safety organisations and the Department for Transport say the evidence is that speed cameras do save lives. "We insist on cameras only being installed at sites where there is a history of speeding and casualties," says a spokeswoman for the DfT. "They are there for road-safety reasons only. We don't want to take people's money: we want to slow people down, change driver behaviour and save lives. Where cameras have been placed, we have seen a 35 per cent reduction in deaths and serious injuries. We know they work, and we know they save lives."

Meanwhile, Captain Gatso is scanning his e-mails. "I'm looking at some mails I've got from one of our guys in the Midlands. Somebody is offering his services; he can get stuff from quarries. We're talking e-x-p-l-o-s-i-v-e-s. And another guy says, 'I have a 44-ton truck. I would love to reverse it over anything you fancy...'"

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I'm quite surprised to see this subject handled in a neutral way by The Independent. I can't really see a single judgemental word in the whole article - unless it's the expression "folk hero" in the subtitle.

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Well far be it from me to hold back judgement on Captain Gatso.

He is a class A moron who is doing the average motorist absolutley to good whatsoever. Worse still, he is polluting the reasoned arguments put forward by SS et al because it's easy for the detractors to tar everyone with the same brush of cretinous irresponsibility.

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His motives are right, even if his methods are perhaps somewhat dubious. :D

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Rigpig has a point, but the other side of the coin is that Captain Gatso would probably not exist if it weren't for the abuse of the scameras. Had the original promise to only site cameras in black spot locations been kept I'm sure we'd never have heard of him.


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Gatsobait wrote:
Rigpig has a point, but the other side of the coin is that Captain Gatso would probably not exist if it weren't for the abuse of the scameras. Had the original promise to only site cameras in black spot locations been kept I'm sure we'd never have heard of him.


I couldn't agree more.

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Personally, I am in favour of Captain Gatso's actions. Anything that keeps the scameras on the political agenda has my vote.

You only have to look at the likes of Emily Pankhurst to realise that the only thing that makes governments change their mind is direct action.

Like it or not, the IRA became part of mainstream politics through the use of the bomb. A controversial viewpoint, yes, but this is a controversial subject.

The government is sitting on a nice little earner and anything that spoils that can only be a good thing.


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If every 'single issue activist' - as the Independent refers to CG - decided upon some sort of direct action then we'd descend into anarchy.

It appears fine when the action is directed at something you dissaprove of, not so supportable when it's the other way around. Supposing some anti-speeding activist decided they hate 'law-breaking' motorsists so much that they starting tracking them down and trashing their cars? It amounts to the same thing, only the fact that it's someones personal property being vandalised and not some faceless authoritys' camera determines the difference.

History has thrown up many vile characters who 'wouldn't have been there' had it not been for whatever it was they were notorious for (tortuous grammar I know).

And as I said before, it's too easy for protagonists to lump together organisations such as MAD (Morons Against Detection) and SS. 'Look at those irresponsible idiots' they can say..ignoring the fact that reasoned argument is being offerd from one corner, pathetic stupidity from another.


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Rigpig wrote:
If every 'single issue activist' - as the Independent refers to CG - decided upon some sort of direct action then we'd descend into anarchy.

It appears fine when the action is directed at something you dissaprove of, not so supportable when it's the other way around. Supposing some anti-speeding activist decided they hate 'law-breaking' motorsists so much that they starting tracking them down and trashing their cars? It amounts to the same thing, only the fact that it's someones personal property being vandalised and not some faceless authoritys' camera determines the difference.

I feel a kind of moral dilemma over this. In principle, I must condemn illegal direct action in a supposedly democratic society, however strongly-held the underlying principles of the perpetrators. I certainly have no time for Islamic or animal rights terrorism.

But I can't help having a kind of sneaking regard for the Captain Gatsos of this world, and I find most ordinary people I talk to feel the same. If a local camera has been vandalised, they generally tend to say "ha ha, another one gone! :twisted: " rather than "how shocking!". It should also be pointed out that all that is being destroyed is government enforcement equipment, not private property or lives.

If individuals feel driven to such extreme action, and the general public is vaguely supportive or lukewarm, rather than outraged, then it suggests that government policy has gone badly astray.

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PeterE wrote:
Rigpig wrote:
If every 'single issue activist' - as the Independent refers to CG - decided upon some sort of direct action then we'd descend into anarchy.

It appears fine when the action is directed at something you dissaprove of, not so supportable when it's the other way around. Supposing some anti-speeding activist decided they hate 'law-breaking' motorsists so much that they starting tracking them down and trashing their cars? It amounts to the same thing, only the fact that it's someones personal property being vandalised and not some faceless authoritys' camera determines the difference.

I feel a kind of moral dilemma over this. In principle, I must condemn illegal direct action in a supposedly democratic society, however strongly-held the underlying principles of the perpetrators. I certainly have no time for Islamic or animal rights terrorism.

But I can't help having a kind of sneaking regard for the Captain Gatsos of this world, and I find most ordinary people I talk to feel the same. If a local camera has been vandalised, they generally tend to say "ha ha, another one gone! :twisted: " rather than "how shocking!". It should also be pointed out that all that is being destroyed is government enforcement equipment, not private property or lives.

If individuals feel driven to such extreme action, and the general public is vaguely supportive or lukewarm, rather than outraged, then it suggests that government policy has gone badly astray.

Regards,

Peter


Here here. The government does not have the support of the people on this and yet they refuse to listen to reasoned arguement. What other course of action is there?


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TonyOut wrote:
The government does not have the support of the people on this...
Unfortunately this isn't entirely true. The government does not have the support of people who have considered the issue rationally. They do have the support of the ill-informed who have mindlessly bought into the spin, since that doesn't require any independent thought. The ill-informed are the ones whose opinion needs to be changed, and I'm not convinced blowing up Gatsos, satisfying as it may be, is going to achieve this.
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...and yet they refuse to listen to reasoned arguement.
Well, since when have politicians listened to reason if they think it's irrelevant to the true purpose of getting votes? :) Like many things using cameras is not so much to achieve anything as to show that something is being done come campaign time.
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What other course of action is there?
A change of tactics on the part of Captain Gatso that doesn't involve actual camera destruction might change some perceptions. Home made warning signs to alert drivers of the camera would deprive the scamera partnerships of fines, slow drivers down at the location of the supposed hazard, and could get some media coverage with a word in the ear of the right journo. And no-one could say anything criminal or irresponsible had occurred. Just an idea.


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