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 Post subject: Transport Disruption
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 07:55 
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How on earth does heavy snowfall cause the closure of an underground railway?

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The train drivers can't get into work?

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malcolmw wrote:
The train drivers can't get into work?

As true as that is, I would think there would have been some contingency against that?

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Steve wrote:
malcolmw wrote:
The train drivers can't get into work?

As true as that is, I would think there would have been some contingency against that?


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Steve wrote:
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The train drivers can't get into work?

As true as that is, I would think there would have been some contingency against that?


Why??

We havnt had snow like this for over 25 years! (in the south east anyway) Why have some expensive contingency plan for something that..

a) Hardly ever happens
b) isnt really that big a deal.

Just declare a "bank holiday" (or two) and enjoy the novelty!

(MODs, Urgent Smiley for snowball fight needed! :D )

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dcbwhaley wrote:
How on earth does heavy snowfall cause the closure of an underground railway?


That isn't heavy snowfall. This is heavy snowfall:

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Ah, I miss those Montreal winters!


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Dusty wrote:
Why??

We havnt had snow like this for over 25 years! (in the south east anyway) Why have some expensive contingency plan for something that..

a) Hardly ever happens
b) isnt really that big a deal.

Because, for once, we had a decent warning. Surely it is a good investment to pay drivers overtime to stay at a nearby hotel (assuming their not being able to get in was the reason for the disruption)

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(MODs, Urgent Smiley for snowball fight needed! :D )

This :drink: is as close as we get - it's good enough :D

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 Post subject: Re: Transport Disruption
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How on earth does heavy snowfall cause the closure of an underground railway?


No all of it is underground. I was most dissappointed when I went for a ride on it to see what its like in the big city. Would have been better off taking a trip on the Snowdon Mountain Railway. In fact the trains in Switzerland probably spent more time in tunnels that the London Underground.

We will be the laughting stock when all those foreign visitor and media come for the Olympics and realise that we can barely make an Underground "do what it says on the tin."

By the way, is the Snake Pass by you closed?


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How on earth does heavy snowfall cause the closure of an underground railway?


No all of it is underground. I was most dissappointed when I went for a ride on it to see what its like in the big city. Would have been better off taking a trip on the Snowdon Mountain Railway. In fact the trains in Switzerland probably spent more time in tunnels that the London Underground.

We will be the laughting stock when all those foreign visitor and media come for the Olympics and realise that we can barely make an Underground "do what it says on the tin."

By the way, is the Snake Pass by you closed?


Circle is all underground, isn't it? That was the first to close.

Snake pass closed http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/travel/roads_01.shtml

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So a few flakes of snow not only stops the Underground but the precious folk of Derbyshire aswell. Hmmm? whats they well known phase about pots and kettle? :lol:


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Mayor Boris Johnson has announced the £8 London congestion charge is to be suspended for the day as a "gesture of appreciation" for those who have travelled to work".

:clap: :clap: :clap: :drink: :clap: :clap:

If only he did that every day ..... :D

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So a few flakes of snow not only stops the Underground but the precious folk of Derbyshire aswell. Hmmm? whats they well known phase about pots and kettle? :lol:


Not fair - the Derbyshire Caving Club go underground even when it is snowing. :D

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dcbwhaley wrote:
Lucy W wrote:
So a few flakes of snow not only stops the Underground but the precious folk of Derbyshire aswell. Hmmm? whats they well known phase about pots and kettle? :lol:


Not fair - the Derbyshire Caving Club go underground even when it is snowing. :D


Now that is just stupid - what if the snow turns to rain!!!


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Because, for once, we had a decent warning. Surely it is a good investment to pay drivers overtime to stay at a nearby hotel (assuming their not being able to get in was the reason for the disruption)



Their time spent "on call" would qualify as working time under the working time directive.
Don't forget, night workers have no opt-out.

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Steve wrote:
BBc.co.uk wrote:
Mayor Boris Johnson has announced the £8 London congestion charge is to be suspended for the day as a "gesture of appreciation" for those who have travelled to work".

:clap: :clap: :clap: :drink: :clap: :clap:

If only he did that every day ..... :D


only because everyone painted thier number plate white :bighand:

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Their time spent "on call" would qualify as working time under the working time directive.
Don't forget, night workers have no opt-out.

Ah, but would they actually be 'on-call' ? They won't be expected to work (or attend) outside of their nominal core hours (unlike doctors who have to drop everything and go at a moments notice).

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only because everyone painted thier number plate white :bighand:

:lol:

The few of us who attended work today had a laugh about that. So many drivers have slow-obscured plates, so they could whiz past SPECS/Truvelos to their hearts content; that's almost funny when considering the conditions out there!

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Steve wrote:
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Their time spent "on call" would qualify as working time under the working time directive.
Don't forget, night workers have no opt-out.

Ah, but would they actually be 'on-call' ? They won't be expected to work (or attend) outside of their nominal core hours (unlike doctors who have to drop everything and go at a moments notice).

They would be getting paid, so they are working.
If they are not going to be paid, they will not be there.
And also note that doctors hours are also subject to the working time directive.
Consultants are somewhat different since they are contract workers.
Also note that night workers are subject to the 48 hours with NO OPT OUT ALLOWED. Maximum 12 hour shifts.

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