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it's difficult being right all the time

(PS as i'm sure the mods know an IP address match or partial match is by no means conclusive)

Lucy, I can assure you, I've got a lot better things to do with my time than come on this forum making up stories about speeding convictions which is obviously what you think I'm doing! I'm not going to start naming names from a certain police constabulary on a public forum. Exactly what is your position and how could you help me wih the name of the signatory?

Not everyone has a static IP; for example: those who use dial-up usually have theirs dynamically allocated.

People are free to posts spoofs, just as other are free to point them out. You've made your point loud and clear, there's no need for you to continue repeating it.

Confrontational behaviour risks community breakdown more than the occasional spoof post (note: I’m not saying this was a spoof post, nor will I get draw into such a debate).

Steve; It is Tom that keeps this thread going and as you contribute, in doing so you keep the thread going in the tone that it is. Would you rather these spoofers make a mockery of Safe Speed and all that it aims to achieve?

Tom: Just how long are you going to keep this act up? No name - no help.

That name is a public officer as therefore there is no confidentiality issue here - just accept it, I caught you out again.

If you were serious, you could have PM'ed me like you did before. Now just how stupid are you going to make yourself look as well as Safe Speed?

Keep it up, alot of people are having a good laugh at you and Safe Speed on this one.

Lucy, you have a PM.

Tom has already been instructed (by PM) not to divulge unnecessary information.

Clearly Safe Speed are a part of this spoof telling Tom not to divulge unnecessary information (creating a cover for Tom). It is necessary if Tom wants my help, but of course this is a spoof trying to ascertain my identity after Safe Speed's attempt to do so failed.

If I'd been wronged, I'd have no isuue naming the wrong doer. But of course this is all a spoof folks, but its given me a good laugh seeing just how long they can keep it up

clearly

Someone's forgotten to take her medication again...

Folks,

Unfortunately, moderator action had to be taken. Please can everyone refrain from posting unnecessary comments.

The original discussion can be resumed (by everyone) without fear of further disruption.

Tom to Safe Speed.

I must say I found some snail mail post has even been sent back (to a bank) as it goes - yet other mail appeared to be being received! However further investigations showed that a local temporary post-person at the sorting office had for some utterly unexplainable reason, been sending the mail as 'gone away' ! The Sorting office were embarrassed and terribly sorry ! Happily I found out quite quickly but that sort of thing can cause untold problems !
Certainly I have always understood, that they only have to send the NIP in standard post, but it has to arrive within 14 days.

Like Fisherman states all evidence that you can show, to help your case, should you so wish to fight it, can help.
Can you think of mail that has not arrived? (Just for you to think about not to answer this here - of course) Have you asked people - yet ? Even ask a few neighbours in case it was mis-delivered ? A survey from mis-delivered mail may help too.

It is about showing the Court the balance of probabilities - that it is possible that it was not delivered.

Sometimes the Cameras are not operating correctly too and become 'known' about later .... some fines/points are refunded too.

Was this a gatso, truvello or camera van ? Do you recall. Have you checked the speed limit signage up to the camera - from all approaches ?
I would like to see ALL their evidence prior to handing over any money.
You can ALWAYS plead guilty right up the day of the Court case. (I am NOT a lawyer and cannot advise you - we always suggest that you seek professional advice).
We recommend chatting to the pepipoo forums too, as they have many lawyers that can provide additional support and advice too, (as has already been suggested).
We strongly disapprove of all cameras, they are not making the roads safer nor giving out the right road safety message we do not believe that they are saving lives due to the 'fatality gap'.

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Hi

On the point of non delivery....

If for example my wife went to court in a similar case to this and stated UNDER OATH, that she was always IN when the post arrived and the NIP had definitely NOT arrived for a month....would the court not believe her ?

This is theoretical only by the way .

All the best Brett

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Trouble with being 'so precise' in Court is that a good prosecution will, first establish when the mail arrives then ask a series of questions like do you never have : to visit her dr., or never ill, or, never ever has a lie-in, never has a holiday ? etc etc,. By now that statement is proven questionable.
They try to cover themselves when there are local strikes (on occasion), or other problems.
It is shameful, as none of this has any baring on Road Safety. No matter how many cameras, or however much money they throw at this, or even receive, it will never make people better drivers.
Depriving people of money does just that. Even making their lives miserable, and tearing apart families, and putting families through great strife, will still, never improve their driving, in fact, you are more likely to cement people's attitude into believing, (even more so), that they are right, not question their abilities and try to improve!

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