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£2,000,000,000 and that's just for setting up. No, there must be more to this than meets the eye.

In another report:

What for? Don't they already have enough powers to track undesirables online?

I can see it now:
CRB check: fail if applicant has surfed a porn site, extend to certain activist sites if desired.

Heaven help you if you get infected by a strategically created virus.......

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if they go ahead with this we will soon see some computer programming boffin types writing programs to combat it and it will be available free. they allow free use of AVG and update it all the time so why would they not produce some kind of jammer or false information program to stop the communications operators from tracking our use? it will be a waste of money and someone will resist it using a publically available program!

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Richie

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VPN, anonymous proxy, the means to defeat these lunatic ideas have been around for years.

Anyway, it's a government project so that means it will go £10 billion over budget and won't start for at least 5 years after it's planned start date.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

Freenet is an anonymous and censorship resistant network.
Tor is a proxy for connecting to the existing internet in an anonymous way.

So such things exist already. We need more people to use them really.

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Andrew.

I am assuming that this is to stop terrorism. It usually is.

Now, in the last 10 years, how many people have died on the British Isles as a result of terrorism. Only a hand full would be my guess. It strikes me a a very expensive way of combating the very small risk of terrorism. What else can it be used for?

£2bn must surely be better spent elsewhere. Also, it would be a little amusing if this effected the number of people using the internet and the public just said, stuff you then we will do something else rather than be snooped on by you lot

sorry, im not a staff member of this site but i had to enter the missing word for you

officially rarely means in practice or in truth with our current bunch of muppets and puppets

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Richie

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You can guarantee that is the blanket that will be used to introduce it.
The government know the general populace don't believe a word they say any more, so the only way to get our backing for anything is to introduce a non existant fear and hope that hysteria kicks in.

A perfect example is the 12 men who were arrested for "terrorism" a couple of weeks ago.
The government made sure that crap was rammed down our throats for days after the arrests. Yet when every single last man was released because there was no evidence whatsoever, it didn't even make front page news for the one day that the story was published.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

Was that the bit I heard on the radio- "conspiring to attend a terrorist training camp"?

Just how many steps removed from commiting an act can you be and still be considered a terrorist these days?

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Fear is a weapon of mass distraction

that depends on how it suits them. conspiracy itself probably isnt a terrorist act if you are a migrant student but if you decide to blockade a fuel refinery as a brit trying to keep your job, you are branded and prosecuted as a terrorist. as always, the government got their hands on something and diluted its true meaning. a modern day terrorist (post 9/11) is whatever the government wants it to be rather than a violent attempt to deprive of human life and destroy civilisation.

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Richie

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No Ben, that was in relation to 7/7
3 men were charged with conspiring (with the bombers that we did know about) to carry out that attack. They were all acquitted of that charge, but 2 of them were found guilty of conspiring to attend a terrorist training camp.

The 12 who were nicked a couple of weeks ago were all released because there was no evidence whatsoever, but the government has decided to deport them because they "abused" their student visas (although what the actual "abuse" was has not yet been made public).

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?