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If speed limits were based on worst case scenario they'd be 0mph surely?

Wrong!

My way also suggests people actually obey the law.

Do you want to try again?

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No speed limits?

Wrong again. What an immature response. Are you even taking this seriously?

This is the problem with camera supporters who have blindly bought into this 'speed kills' mantra (or the dissenters) - they see only the limited view of the world they want to see, and somehow miss the reasonable options.

Do you want to try again?

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"Sensibly" set speed limits?

Got there in the end, but it needed a couple of tries.

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No, and I'll thank you for not taking the p1$$

How fast do you walk/jog/run?

If you cycle, what speed do you cycle at?

The mass of your vehicle plays an important part, as do THE CONDITIONS!!!

Is 5mph over the limit on a motorway the same as 5 mph over in a 30mph limit? There are only three possibilities weepej. (They carry the same penalty)

A) Yes
B) No
c) They're both as bad

All you think of, and defend, is SPEED KILLS.

Where will it end I wonder...



P1$$ taking aside, I see the result of idiotic road abuse. Do you weepej?

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

So, how would you enforce these "sensibly" set speed limits?

They would be self-enforcing. Nobody would dream of exceeding a "sensible" speed limit. (Yes that is irony)

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When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Also, who defines what sensible is?

For me a sensibly set speed limit in an urban area such as a high street is 20mph.

Yep, including 3:00 a.m folks.

Circumstances mean nothing at all...

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Traffic police! If the limits are set sensibly then they can be hidden and plentiful - who would care?

The SCPs abused their chance (RTTM, long-term trend, bias on selection) and they were ineffective - its time to disband them!

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How about the safest drivers - you know that pesky 85% percentile group, who just so happen to also form the trigger for speed camera enforcement.


Possibly.
Rural single carriageways with no junctions or houses needn't be 30.
Motorways and DCs out of rush hour needn't be 70....

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Yes at 3am, especially next to the night club that's chucking out.

Because all residential streets have nightclubs on them don't they - my god the arguments get weaker by the minute!

A "sensible" speed limit depends on many factors - time of day, weather, weight of traffic, number of pedestrians, the type of vehicle. How would you calculate this limit and, crucially, enforce it?

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Oh, so you recognise circumstances do matter then?

Edit to add:
What’s “especially” anyway? It’s 20 mph because that’s what is safe but it’s “especially” 20 mph if there’s a night club.

See how ridiculously flawed your argument is

Personally, I would maybe do 30 mph but when they are “chucking out” I may be doing 10 – 15mph. It’s simple.

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Ditto outside a school on a non-school day. Sensible...

David Ruffley is right and Matthew Elliott absolutely hit the nail on the head saying “it is dragging the reputation of the law through the dirt”. I can’t remember the poster’s signature here who said ‘Useless laws weaken necessary ones’ but he’s right and the Government are simply using our police force as mercenaries.

When enough decent safe motorists are banned, the smoke and mirror ‘Speed Kills’ argument will show its true colours and they will have to start looking at ‘Bad Driving Kills’ instead. (Hopefully soon, before thousands more are killed)

The daft thing is me and weepej have something in common, always have: I too am incensed when I see someone going too fast. The only difference between me and him is I’m talking about speeding in the wrong place, time, situation or circumstances whereas his blanket approach is netting safe drivers and a fortune for the Government.

There’s some who treats the cul-de-sac I live in like a drag strip. If I could nail that myself I would!

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I suppose the fact that over one million gallons of water fall on my property every year disinclines me to think of it as a scarce resource [/quote]

lordy mate, you must have a big gaff! We have an abstraction licence for 10,000,000 gallons a year and that is enough to keep 115 acres of potatoes watered for the season.

1 litre puts 1mm of rain on 1 square meter