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We may do that too - but we also have to prioritise and if something more important - such as the armed burglary of an occupied house is reported - then this would take precedence.



But the marked cars on patrol are multi-tasked in that they serve as a visible deterrent and I should not need to remind you that Sutcliffe and many others have been caught by humble routine traffic cops. Oh sure.. we put the fleet out where we know they will be most useful and the officer has some lee-way/decision making as well.




Yes.. we target known TWOC areas/pub/clubs and the rurals they will head for. Cumbria/Lancs etc will surely deploy similarly.

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from what I've seen of these speed surveys, they are positioned where the speed of that stretch of road is likely to be highest, i.e. on a long straight, hardly the place most likely to carreer off the road and hit a tree, so if it was a long fast straight or even a dual then 100MPH at 2 am is not what I would call a priority over someone's house being burgalled would you?

Any single vehicle accident is likely to be "speed related" even if the car was to have a blow out, you could argue that he was going "too fast" even if that "too fast" is 50MPH.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Do you really?

How do you achieve that?

Simple answer to that; automated enforcement.

By that of course you mean cameras, which allow the miscreant to drive at 100mph, where it may or may not be safe to do so. 14 days later (or so) a NIP drops through the letter box, which has a prosecution case so full of holes a law student could defeat it. Yup I like that idea too.

Actually, the alternative, a BIB stops said miscreant - either gives a damn good bollocking or throws the book at him. Incident dealt with there and then - that's very bad. I can see your logic now weepej, I am glad you pointed this out. All this time I wanted bad drivers brought to book, where what I should want is a system that allows bad drivers to slip through the net.

So anyone who disagrees with dcbwhaley is a freak, and anyone who disagrees with GreenShed is ill-informed and ill-intentioned, gosh, what awesome debaters we have in for this thread.

One hearsay, anecdotal incident does not a well-informed debater make, lets stick to evidence eh fellas? Also, lets just skip over the puerile and facetious obtusity where you pretend I was talking to a different poster and agree with me.

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Er, you need to be talking to graball not me, it was graball that didn't want the BIB there.

Erm no it was you that wanted automated enforcement. Current policy is one or the other, one makes huge amounts of money, the other cost a lot of money but does huge service to safety, our government chose the cameras due to the revenue stream.

Sigh. Graball said he didn't want coppers going after speeders, he want's them "stopping houses being burgled", i.e. "shouldn't you be out catching real criminals officer?" (answer "I am").

We won't go on about how safe 100mph is in the dark, even with full beams on.

And you don't want them at all because you said:

Which means in the current climate, no BIBs at all.

Submitted to early again - too many premature submissons, must be my age! Anyway:

No probably best not to, I watched the 24 Hueres de mans last year, they seemed to be doing pretty well at huge speeds in the dark!
Why do you always fail to account for circumstances in your blind acceptance of the nanny state?

Ive been with people doing 80MPH in the dark on rural roads in the dark and felt safe and they are proper rural not duals so I can't see why 100mph on a dual is a problem, after all the Deutsche don'tseem to have a problem on the autobahn at over 100 MPH in the dark and thats little more than a glorified dual in places.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Not anyone, only Odin. And only because he defined the freak criteria in the first place.

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Maybe the reason we can't get any good race/rally champions in this country any more is the "lets restrict everyone to 40mph brigade" mentality. Roger clark and Graham Hill didn't have to worry about speed cameras and as for that black guy...enough said...

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Remind me who is leading the F1 championship and on pole for today's Spanish Grand Prix. And the "black guy" who won it last season wasn't raised in the African jungle.

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There is no way you can stop in the distance you can see to be clear at 80mph on an unlit road in the dark.

Does it really?

This is simply incorrect. It depends on your lights, eyesight, vehicle braking capability and the road conditions.

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I've read that in the dark in best conditions at night to be able to stop in good time if there's something unlit in the road, max 50mph.

headlight manufacturers claim that you have forward vision of 75 yards these days and a modern car with good brakes, tyres and road conditions should stop well within that distance.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.