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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 21:25 
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I know Ted post it up here,. I post to PH at same time.

8 GMP crews involve. Man refuse to stop . rode off at high speed. He died. Cops face wrath of law .,. but I support these whereas I cannot do so for Dougal und the Over Kellett pair. These were legit und the story as unfold suggest it all hinge on use on "blues/twos" - point to discuss?? Oder :? :? :? :?


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... race_crash

Death chase cop to face law
John Scheerhout

May 28, 2009

A POLICE officer will be summonsed for dangerous driving following a 50-minute police pursuit which ended in the death of a father-of-five.

Alan Long, a grandfather-of-13 from Denton, Tameside, rode off when police tried to check his driving documents.

He refused to stop, sparking a 50-minute chase, partly on the M60, which included a 'convoy' of police cars and the force plane.

Traffic police are alleged to have defied radio orders to back off - although colleagues say their instructions were 'ambiguous'.

Mr Long died after his motorbike collided with a car at the junction of Stamford Road and Rassbottom Street, in Stalybridge, on August 1 last year.

The Independent Police Complaints Authority launched an inquiry into his death.

They prepared a file of evidence for the Crown Prosecution Service whose lawyers have now decided one of the officers involved in the chase should face action.

Inquiry

It is understood video from another patrol car captured him on a roundabout early in the pursuit. He is accused of not activating his siren or blue flashing lights during the pursuit.

Eight other traffic officers have been told they won't face criminal charges although they still face an internal disciplinary inquiry.

A statement from the IPCC said: "Following an independent IPCC investigation, a file was passed to the CPS on February 13, 2009.

"Following CPS advice a Greater Manchester Police officer has been told that he has been reported for summons which will be obtained in due course."

An IPCC spokeswoman also confirmed eight other officers would not be charged with any criminal offence.

Mr Long was described as a 'passionate biker'. At the time of his death, his wife Julie said he `lived life to the full'.

During the past six-and-half-years, 29 people have died in accidents involving police vehicles in Greater Manchester.

Chris Burrows, chairman of the Greater Manchester branch of the Police Federation, the police union, said: "We are extremely disappointed that the CPS have chosen to take that course of action.

"We believe the officer was just doing his job at the time and the allegation will be vigorously defended."[/quote]


As at this moment with no comment to contrary - my views with GMP. I may modify when I hear defence though :popcorn:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 19:28 
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OK .. so it ist not really an update .. more a date set for the court hearing.


Personally und subjectively und based ONLY on press reports read to date .. - I truly hope the police officer ist exonerated as this man should have stopped when :( instructed in the first place.
:cry: By saying this does not mean I do not feel for his grieving family. I do. But I think we have to be realistic all the same - given all press reports to date.


I still do not understand why he chose to ride off like that. Maybe the court case will establish this fact? I hope so for the sake of his family too - as they will need that answer to get their peace of mind. I make this comment out of respect to the biker's family as I fully understand their sense of bewildered und angry sense of loss. I know they feel hurt und anger towards the police whom they perhaps perceive as "chasing him to his death" - but at the same time - I think they will also feel a sense of anger towards their lost loved one as they will need to know why he chose to ride like that when all was required was a simple routine check of all his documents und a 7 day producer. By choosing to ride like that und never giving one quarter until losing control - he was still the main instigator of his own tragic demise - und I KNOW it sound hurtfully hard to anyone who knew und liked this man - a human being who perhaps made an immature - perhaps childishly petulant but innocent in his own mindset - decision perhaps? :( :( :( I try to understand .. SORRY I speculate a little (maybe callously in the eyes of his family who may read .. to try to understand why he did so..

I am being subjective to my own family standards perhaps here.


OF COURSE .. Human Nature.. :roll: I would be grief stricken.. und look for someone to blame .. as in Police in this case .. to get solace from the grief stricken anger. Then - hopefully - logical obective thought process would intervene - und my anger would be directed towards the deceased for being stupid und ionflicting such hellish trauma on his family. It ist then a living hell for them which I can understand. :cry: :cry:

It ist the eternal "IF ONLY he had stopped as he had nothing to fear" by all accounts as all was legal. A real tragedy und I think the only person who know why he ran in either fear or red mist or "little boy in older man's body who perhaps wanted to chase his lost youth?" ist the deceased. I speculate yet again as it all seem so senseless to me :banghead: I feel for the biker's family. I feel more for the police officer und his family as he ist facing additional trauma of court case - for just doing his job as he would see the "run" as "something to hide" und truly believe he was doing his job.

Let us not forget that this pursuit was being "managed" at all times .. so who ist really to blame here? The cops on the hard face or the managers in the background? :popcorn:


salford advertiser as alerted by sister in law wrote:
Chase cops face driving charges
Kathryn Ryan
July 09, 2009


A POLICEMAN based in Eccles is to face charges of dangerous driving after a grandad biker died following a 50-minute chase.

Father-of-five Alan L was pursued on and off the M60 through Tameside during a chase involving several squad cars and the force plane.

He crashed his powerful 1000cc Yamaha R1 machine into a car in Stalybridge.

Eight Greater Manchester Police officers have been suspended from driving duties since the incident in August last year.

Now one has been summonsed to face two charges of dangerous driving following an Independent Police Complaints Commission investigation.

Police Constable Ian B, 33, who was based in the Tactical Vehicle Crimes Unit in Eccles at the time of the incident, will appear at Liverpool Magistrates’ Court on August 21.

Mr L had failed to stop after officers had tried to check his documents.

His motorcycle was in collision with a VW Polo at the junction of Stamford Road and Rassbottom Street.

He suffered multiple injuries and died about eight hours later.

The 54-year-old was the 25th person killed in six years in incidents involving GMP vehicles.

Described by his family as a ‘passionate biker', Mr Long, from Denton - who also had 13 grandchildren - had been to Asda on August 1 last year when police tried to stop him in Whittles Drive near his home.

Mr L’s family insisted his machine was taxed, insured, and had a valid MoT.

Hundreds turned up at his funeral in Tameside.

In 2007 the IPCC published a study on police accidents and chairman Nick Hardwick said they believed bike pursuits ‘can be particularly dangerous as the rider is much more vulnerable’ than a car driver.

He added: "We recommend these pursuits should be limited to instances where serious crime has been committed."



Yes .. I will agree on this one. But he rode as if he had committed a serious crime und that ist also part of the problem for our police.

I am not anti-police. I fully understand their problems as IG und cops I know in person all explain to me. I respect them und they me.

I have tried to word this post to be fair to the biker und his family und to the police involved as this ist a most horrid case.



http://www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/news ... ng_charges

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