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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 07:58 
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toltec wrote:
You missed the word potentially there, in the same way that walking down a flight of stairs is potentially dangerous, get is wrong and you break your neck and die.


Don't worry about it, the guy's a moron. Well... to avoid an accusation of ad hominem... his arguments are moronic.

*puts a big sign up saying "Please do not feed the trolls"...*

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 09:32 
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Even the slow drivers are at risk of accident; wait, aren't they at greater risk than the average driver?


Well, you could be saying that the faster you go, the safer you are, which is tosh. So I'll be kind and assume you you're getting the point - the average speed is too high, and they endanger other drivers as well as themselves. The answer? A slower average.

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It doesn’t detract from the error that only bad drivers desire fully comp.


You can't have it both ways. If good drivers desire fully comp against crashes, then the inference is that it isn't good enough to be good. No matter how good you are, a crash is still a plausible outcome of every journey you make. Sobering, eh?


Fully comp ist not about being insured against a crash which you may cause or may be caused to you by another muppet - whereby your inusrer pays for the repair und recoup cost from the third party's insurance - assuming he or she has policy :roll:)

You are also insuring against theft/stone chip hitting windscreen/other damages to lovely toy-boy. :cloud9:


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Anyway, stop side-tracking us. You still haven't yet explained how you'd offset the lack of care in those who won't have a pay a penny if they screw up and knock a kid over. You don't have to trust me - the facts of the matter are discussed in the literature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurance# ... s_too_much). dcbwhaley gets it, so why can't you? Insurance creates higher risk by making the insured less risk-averse ; that's the way of the world, and it's time you came out of your denial.



We have fully comp insurance. We are still do our best to maintain our safety margins at all times as we do not want any loadings on premium. :popcorn: Most folk think likewise - apart from those who never bother to insure in first place :banghead:


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Looks, let's band up here and change the world for the good of all. Just knock a few mph off the top, and relax a bit. If we all join in, pretty soon we'll make a dent in the accident rates. Just give it a try, instead of harping negatively from the sidelines.

PS: safer cars have the same effect. Drivers become less risk averse if they drive a safer crate. It's well known.



Nope. Because they cost a shed load of dosh - we tend to look after them as matter of pride und any residual value at end of three/four year period. Because we can pass on a well maintained vehicle with a solid service history at reputable garage - we've sold past cars at above market value in the past. I think we may have problem in credit crunch times though und will be lucky to break even as und when we sell current Jags - which we have actually decided to keep und let our older kids use them whilst we are away abroad.

Driving too slowly for the conditions ist as equally inconsiderate to the other road users as driving too slowly for the conditions. A good driver will blend into the prevailing traffic conditions easily und safely .. as will a good cyclist. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:31 
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I must say I don't feel that knowing I've got fully comp affects my driving in any way shape or form, I don't even think about it actually.

I suspect the bigger issue is people who don't actually own the vehicles they drive.


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I must say I don't feel that knowing I've got fully comp affects my driving in any way shape or form, I don't even think about it actually.

Same here but that's because we're safe drivers and therefore always think about what is safe for both ourselves and others. To put it another way, even if I found out I could write-off my ten year old Polo and get a six figure payout I would still drive in the same safe maner. I am not a stunt man and my record of safe driving means very much to me, as indeed it should to everyone. You would be happy to have someone like me living in your neighbourhood weepej. Well, as far as my driving goes ;)

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I suspect the bigger issue is people who don't actually own the vehicles they drive.

Yes, for sure. But also what I call the madness of youth. Sorry to be agest but the proof is out there. In other words ask the insurance companies who are a greater or lesser risk - not the Government.

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weepej wrote:
I must say I don't feel that knowing I've got fully comp affects my driving in any way shape or form, I don't even think about it actually.


Exactly. Nor do I, the aggro involved with processing an insurance claim (I'm told - never done it) plus of course the excess, is enough to put anyone off. Plus of course the risk of getting hurt or hurting others, which no amount of insurance can compensate.

Abercrombie does come out with some oddities, it's like suggesting people are more likely to set fire to their cars because they have 'third party, fire and theft' insurance.


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