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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 18:04 
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NZ Herald wrote:
Speed cameras save lives Doc 4:00AM Sunday Sep 13, 2009
By Heather McCracken


The number of crashes dropped by half. Photo / Chris Skelton
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Speed cameras, long dismissed as nothing more than revenue-gathering devices, cut crashes according to new figures.

The number of smashes around the 10 busiest camera sites in the country dropped by half after they were installed.

Figures released under the Official Information Act compared the number of injury crashes in the five years before the cameras were put up and the five years after.

Police said the figures proved that speed cameras were aimed at saving lives, rather than revenue gathering.

"Speed cameras work," said national road policing manager Superintendent Paula Rose. "They're an easy thing to hate because a lot of people have had a camera ticket," she said.

"We would rather not have to issue tickets, but we want people to travel safely and get home at the end of their journey."

Rose said fixed cameras were used alongside officer enforcement and mobile cameras to target areas where speed was a factor in crashes.

They were also aimed at changing driver behaviour and reducing average speeds.



An Australian study had shown that a 1km/h drop in average speed would see a fall the number of crashes of 4-5 per cent.

"We're looking at a road toll of 380 to 400 deaths this year," said Rose. "If everyone went 1km/h slower, we'd probably save 16 to 20 lives."

The country's most lucrative speed camera, on East Coast Rd on Auckland's North Shore, last year caught more than 10,000 speeding drivers.

Injury crashes at the site dropped from 11 in the five years before the camera was installed in 1996, to seven in the following five years.

On Waipuna Rd in Mt Wellington, 14 crashes over five years were reduced to just one. A camera on State Highway 1 in Cambridge was less effective, with crashes dropping from 10 to eight.

Rose said the impact varied because every site was different, and in some cases the severity of the crashes was reduced.

Last year police collected almost $27.3 million from tickets issued by speed cameras, alongside $26.5m from tickets issued by officers.

AA spokesman Mike Noon said the association supported the use of speed cameras.

"We think they do a valuable job but we do like them to be visible, we think that adds to the deterrent."

Cameras should also be placed where there was a high risk of crashes and should not be a substitute for police presence on the roads, Noon said.

"That's also very important for modifying and calming behaviour."




But they have not prevented the accidents.. .. "lower severity of impact: What the F;censored: .... :banghead: Two less accidents occurred at one site during a 5 year period???


Errr! :? :?

I cannot say that's much of an improvement... :roll:


Usual drivel.. from NZ SCP types. Either they are brainwashed, gullible fools .. or probably more accurately .. see this a a lucrative career move which perhaps delivers guaranteed income... We would hope to make this a short term career for them all the same :wink:

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The number of smashes around the 10 busiest camera sites in the country dropped by half after they were installed.

Figures released under the Official Information Act compared the number of injury crashes in the five years before the cameras were put up and the five years after.

Police said the figures proved that speed cameras were aimed at saving lives, rather than revenue gathering.

Regression To The Mean

I find it absolutely incredible these claims are still being made without accounting for at least this well-known and proven illusion.

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Indeed Steve. Brainwashed ain't they?

Of course it regresses to the mean. Or even per the evaluation of SAC which Wildy pounced with her usual "antennae" folk choose roads which do not have a camera or known speed trap and that was from a peer reviewed evaluation of Lancs SAC! :roll:

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It seems that speed cameras kill in New Zealand!

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Yep;.. It seems that they may do so beyond New Zealand though . and that's a bit of a worry.


I did a Google.. I trawled a right catch. Not one story shows cam policy in a good light.


I tried hard. I wanted one contoversial to safespeed's campaign. I found , only SCP /equivalent PR in support, I found no statistics to back their claims.. I found upteen peer reviewed studies complaining of poor data collation which meant they "could not evaluate at all" :roll:

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