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Sorry. I meant to say that Macmillan was well to the left of the New Labour leaders.



I fully understand that. But it was a very silly thing to say, knowing that it could be taken out of context.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Everything can be/is taken out of context by someone.
Some things just have to be said.
People only believe what they want to believe, usually for financial reasons.

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The world runs on oil, period. No other substance can compete when it comes to energy density, flexibility, ease of handling, ease of transportation. If oil didn’t exist we would have to invent it.”

56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

I can understand your financial reasons for wanting to believe that the AGW hypothesis is "cobblers". What financial motive do you impute to me for my belief that it isn't?

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Personally I believe that the 60's ditty about one Labour Politician - regarding the erection of a statue and it's placing "It could not be placed to that of a certain American Politician ,who never told a lie ,nor next to an old British policician hailing fRom the valleys,since the politician in question could not tell the difference",and the other one about the same gent -"he only lies when he opens his mouth"

applies to great deal of politicians in the UK.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

There are lies, damn lies and Speed Kills.

If it were only that simple...

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Personally I'd include a lot more stages of dam lies, dam dam lies ,dam dam dam lies etc before the kills idea, unless we're talking about the pill .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Yep, spot on - the term used in court for a compensation claim is 'Contributary Negligence' The employer is expected that they would ensure the use of supplied PPE and if it isn't adhered to go down the disciplinary route, ultimately including dismissal - have been involved in a few such cases including an asbsetos operative who wouldn't wear a respirator !

Unfortunately, I get a load of bollocks passed of as because of health & safety when it has no bearing at all - it's being used as an easy cop out.

If I could issue a FPN to everyone I met who quoted H&S and were wrong I'd be a multimillionaire and living in another country !

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

http://www.wildcrafts.co.uk

You both have not quite read my post in the way I intended. I would expect to use the disciplinary route with an employee who WILFULLY refuses to use PPE. However, in the real world, employees are not supervised at all times and are expected (and obligated) to comply with H&S rules by their own volition. It should not always be "the employers fault" if employees fail to comply. The negligence can be entirely the responsibility of the employee.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

Quite right: The employer can be blameless.
But only if he/she did not know the employee was not complying with the employers health and safety policy.
If they did know, and can be shown to have known [of the non-complying] then it is a matter of apportioning the blame.
I know of one employer whose H&S policy clearly stated:" No wires, hoses or cables to be laid across the workshop floor" (an engineering workshop)
Not surprisingly, when an employee tripped over a cable that another employee had laid across the floor and broke his wrist in the resulting fall, the employers insurance paid-out 5 figures in compensation. The injured employee could not have seen the cable because he was required (H&S policy) to wear full-face rpe, which limited his field of view.

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The world runs on oil, period. No other substance can compete when it comes to energy density, flexibility, ease of handling, ease of transportation. If oil didn’t exist we would have to invent it.”

56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

According to our regulations the onus is on all people, all staff from top to bottom, to take responsibility for something regarding a potentially dangerous act or situation.

So, for instance, if I see a small spillage on the floor I have a 'duty of care' to do something about it; wipe it up, throw a pig mat down or report it.

If there was a trailing wire in our workplace any number of staff should, and would, do something about it before there’s an accident.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.