Safe Speed Forums

The campaign for genuine road safety
It is currently Mon Jun 01, 2026 05:29

View unanswered posts | View active topics


Board index » News » Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News

All times are UTC [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 10 posts ] 
  Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
SafeSpeedv2
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 06:34 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 02:17
Posts: 7357
Location: Highlands
Article Here
theLeader wrote:
Speed camera bosses deny van was parked dangerously
Published date: 07 December 2009 | Published by: Staff reporter
A van parked up in Mold
SPEED camera bosses have replied to a claim that one of their vans was parked in a dangerous position as it filmed in Coedpoeth.
Leader reader Dave Jones said he was travelling through the village on a Saturday morning recently when he saw the van parked by the Smelt.
“It was parked on the wrong side the road facing the wrong way,” he said.
“If it was anyone else that is an offence, so why not them?
“They are breaking the law and then fining people for it too.
“They should also abide by the law.”
He added: “What a farce. I was travelling in the opposite direction and had to drive round the camera van.
“They were breaking the law by facing oncoming traffic on the wrong side of the road.”
A spokesman for the Wales Road Casualty Reduction Partnership said: “Coedpoeth has been identified as an area for safety camera enforcement and there are speed limit signs and camera signs in place to advise drivers that speed may be monitored.

“Safety camera vans are operated by experienced police officers who are fully aware of the law.
“The aim of GoSafe – formerly Arrive Alive – is casualty reduction and our officers are well aware of health and safety requirements especially when selecting a parking location for the vans.”
She added: “The safety camera partnerships in Wales have merged to become one. We are no longer Arrive Alive and Mid and South Wales Safety Camera Partnership but GanBwyll/GoSafe – the Wales Road Casualty Reduction Partnership.
“This doesn’t affect the way we operate safety camera enforcement in Wales and our aim remains to reduce the number of people killed and injured on Welsh roads through speed and red light camera enforcement, education and engineering strategies.”

Considering everything that the Camera Partnership said at the recent Event that I attend (Glasgow Uni) this is simply appalling ! They should admit they are 'wrong' and remove their useless disrespected and hypocritical program altogether.

_________________
Safe Speed for Intelligent Road Safety through proper research, experience & guidance.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
graball
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 08:39 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 19:08
Posts: 3434
Quote:
“They were breaking the law by facing oncoming traffic on the wrong side of the road.”


Since when has it been an offence, to park facing oncoming traffic, during the hours of daylight?

_________________
My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
malcolmw
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 08:54 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2004 14:26
Posts: 4364
Location: Hampshire/Wiltshire Border
Why do these bodies persistently keep changing their names and organisation?

Is it so that nobody can get the blame?

_________________
Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Steve
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:49 
Offline
Friend of Safe Speed
Friend of Safe Speed
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:16
Posts: 7986
Location: Moved to London
It is an offence to mount a pavement that hasn't been modified to accept vehicle weight.

Image

It's quite clear there's no dropped kerb at that section. A PCN should be issued to that driver.

_________________
Views expressed are personal opinions and are not necessarily shared by the Safe Speed campaign
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
teabelly
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:53 
Offline
Friend of Safe Speed
Friend of Safe Speed
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:19
Posts: 1795
Speeding in Coedpoeth???? Really??? I've driven through there quite a bit and no-one speeds through the tight villagey bit. The road then widens up massively before the NSL signs appear which is probably where the van would be.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
SafeSpeedv2
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 14:19 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 02:17
Posts: 7357
Location: Highlands
I think they keep changing names, are because they wish to appear more acceptable by the public, and are trying to move away from 'cameras' as the public rift is now so large any association to them is met with distaste.
The photograph caption is of a camera van in Mold, I think this is a press photo not of the camera van that was committing the offensive position to which people have complained.

Here is the link to Ceodpoeth - any idea which is the smelt that it was near ? The chap says that he has to 'drive around it'.
Plus with this quote
Quote:
“Safety camera vans are operated by experienced police officers who are fully aware of the law.
Then there is no excuse and they must be booked surely - any excuse is adding to the hypocritical rules one for the public and one for the Police.

_________________
Safe Speed for Intelligent Road Safety through proper research, experience & guidance.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
dcbwhaley
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 16:58 
Offline
Supporter
Supporter
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2008 13:45
Posts: 4042
Location: Near Buxton, Derbyshire
graball wrote:
Since when has it been an offence, to park facing oncoming traffic, during the hours of daylight?


It could - as could any parking on the carriageway, verge or pavement - be regarded as obstructing the highway. That is both a public nuisance, which is a misdemeanour at common law and an offence against section 37 of th Highways act 1980.

_________________
When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
teabelly
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 17:16 
Offline
Friend of Safe Speed
Friend of Safe Speed
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:19
Posts: 1795
That looks like the van is on the A525 to me. Smelt lanes and smelt roads all come out onto the A525. As far as I remember there is a sign saying 'the smelt' at some point along the A525 around Coedpoeth. The next time I am up there I'll see if I can find the spot. It should be published on the pratnership site too.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Mole
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 00:27 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 18:54
Posts: 4036
Location: Cumbria
They're probably all "freemen" so they won't have to comply with any laws that they don't like :wink:
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
botach
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 14:40 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 23:26
Posts: 9268
Location: Treacletown ( just north of M6 J3),A MILE OR TWO PAST BEDROCK
Mole wrote:
They're probably all "freemen" so they won't have to comply with any laws that they don't like :wink:
:clap: :clap:

Or the other( similar ?) arguement that the camera lot use -that they're on police business ,so trhey can bend the law - or it doesn't apply to them .

_________________
lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 10 posts ] 

Board index » News » Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News

All times are UTC [ DST ]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 20 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You can post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.014s | 11 Queries | GZIP : Off ]