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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 00:23 
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Here (bit of an old story (April 09) but interesting
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New research has revealed that drivers of black cars are the most likely to break the speed limit while at the other end of the spectrum, drivers of purple cars are the least likely.
Insurance expert elephant.co.uk looked at data from over 1.5 million motorists and found that motorists who drive black cars are 9% more likely than the average driver to have points on their licence for breaking the speed limit.
Drivers of grey cars were also found to be more likely than average to have speeding points on their license. Closely following black cars, drivers of grey cars are 8% more likely than average to have been caught speeding.
Brian Martin, managing director of elephant.co.uk, said, "We wanted to know why it is that drivers of black and grey cars appear to have more of a propensity to speed so we looked into more detail at the cars on our books.
"We found it didn’t necessarily correlate that black and grey cars would have bigger engines, so evidently for drivers of these coloured cars, the temptation to break the speed limit is simply too great whatever their engine size."
It’s not a colour you see as often as black or grey, but the research revealed that drivers of purple cars are proportionally the least likely to be caught speeding. In fact, as well as purple cars, it was the brighter, more conspicuous cars such as white, yellow and red that were found to be the least likely to have owners with a propensity to speed.
Drivers of purple cars are 18% less likely than the average driver to have a speeding conviction, motorists in white cars are 15% less likely than average and those in yellow and red cars are 14% and 13% less likely respectively. These are then followed by drivers of green, brown and blue cars with silver cars reflecting the average for speeding convictions.
Brian Martin continued, "With red cars 13% less likely than average to be caught speeding, it seems the urban legend that police officers play snooker when catching speeders is out of date. However, no matter what colour car you drive, my advice would be to drive within the speed limit at all times."
Issue date: 24-04-09

I'd love to see the % of all colours of cars owned and the mileage driven by those cars.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 09:18 
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We must immediately pass a law requiring all new cars to be purple and offer grants so that existing cars can be resprayed that colour :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 16:34 
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I drive red, blue, dark blue with purplish hints and black cars. Should I be altering my driving to suit?

Does having gold wheels make any difference?

I thought red cars were bad for accidents, however the below seems to indicate that this is just an insurance bias and the accident rates tie up with the above speeding data.

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http://www.fancyacar.co.uk/car-insurance/vehicle-colour/

When you go out looking for a shiny new motor, you have lots of things to think about - fuel economy, practicality, equipment, added extras and of course price. One thing that usually only gets a slight consideration is colour. According to the AA only 3% of women and just about 1% of men think that colour is an important factor when buying a car.

Even if you are the type of person who would spend time considering the exterior colour, it is purely a matter of taste. Which is you favourite car colour? Should it be matt or metallic, should it be two-tone?

What people never consider is some colours are more dangerous to drive than others, some colours are involved in more accidents than others and some colours are not popular with insurance companies so they will cost you more to insure.

That little box on the insurance form that asks the colour of the vehicle is there for a reason, insurance companies know that there are more accidents, deaths and injuries in certain coloured cars above others.

Insurers have always had a dislike of sports cars that are red, the main reason for this is that they are the most popular combination for boy racers; sports cars look good for attracting girls and feeling like a macho race driver. And red psychologically is an exiting colour that says “speed” to younger male drivers, that’s why insurance companies don’t like them.

There is a pecking order in terms of accidents for regular car drivers when it comes to colour and accidents. Monash University Accident Research Centre performed an accident statistic study and discovered that white is the safest colour on the road.

Blue or red vehicles were involved in 7% more accidents than white cars, silver were more accident prone at 10%, grey are a little worse at 11% and with 12% more accidents than white cars, black was the worst offending colour.

Of more concern to insurers is that although silver is in the middle of the pack, it is fast becoming the colour of choice for new car buyers, with some companies offering four or five different silver variants, meaning that as many as a 30% of new cars are silver.

White is not particularly popular, because although it is the safest colour it also has the worst re-sale value because of its tendency to show dirt easily as well as marks and scratches.

Just to muddy the waters a little more, another study also found the link between car colour and accident rates. However it found that although silver cars were involved in fewer accidents than white cars, they were more likely to be involved in serious and fatal accidents.

The reason white or silver is better than black or other dark colours such as green (which appears black at night) is that they are harder to see, especially in dark or poor visibility situations, leading to more accidents for those colours over white and light coloured cars.


ETA - Link to the Monash study referenced http://www.monash.edu.au/muarc/reports/muarc263.pdf (28 pages < 0.5MBytes)

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What a perfect example of the gross misuse of statistics through utter ignorance, our sub-aqua buddy should take note. As Claire says, without stats on the relative numbers of various coloured cars, and their usage, this is meaningless!

99.99% of shootings in the USA last year involved bullets that were bronze/copper in colour (color), so quite clearly banning this colour of bullet would save countless lives!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 21:41 
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:rotfl:

Not so long ago . they said medical consultants and RAF pilots were the worst offenders.

Well I know Rigpig was one sound law abiding bloke.. and think RobinXe to be likewise from his post content :bow: to both.. and I happen to know that neither the Mad Doc nor his wife . indeed any of the medics across the huge family nuclei .. in fact NONE of them have been done for any speeding/traffic/parking offence to date..

I know that I drive a black Audi :yikes: and my wife currently drives a black Audi hatch :lol: The Mad Cat's "stealthmobiles" in "downtown Tucson" happen to be errrr.. black :yikes: Uncle Wildkater (teh :neko:'s father) drives a black S class Merc .. :lol: He's never been done .. even in Switzerland which has zero tolerance and he's one hard headed petrolhead too :lol: ..

by the way .. as my post above does not conform to Greenshred's vision of what I am supposed to say I will of course agree that all stealthmobiles remain black or silver .. or horseboxes/builder's vans/rentawhitevan with SCP logos on them
dcb .. you have it wrong. All cars should now be resprayed the colour of lentils and muesli .. of course. :wink:
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I am of course exercising my right to a sense of humour. :wink:

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Ah well, I don't think RigPig was a pilot, and luckily (for my insurance) I am a Commissioned Officer, rather than anything more specific!

I do, of course, know members of my profession who drive like tits, but they are, of course, approximately equal in proportion to my civvie mates who drive like tits!

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It just goes to show how people can show a relationship between practically anything and practically anything else if they try hard enough.
However, without a plausible mechanism, it remains just that - a statistical curiosity.

I propose another link - given that Monash and U of Adelaide are situated in Australia, it seems that 90% of dodgy research findings emanate from 'down under'.

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Pete317 wrote:
It just goes to show how people can show a relationship between practically anything and practically anything else if they try hard enough.
However, without a plausible mechanism, it remains just that - a statistical curiosity.

I propose another link - given that Monash and U of Adelaide are situated in Australia, it seems that 90% of dodgy research findings emanate from 'down under'.


In case you did not get the first few lines of my earlier post and hence my view of the results in the OP. :)

There is an initial impression of a correlation between the two results, this however does not mean there is a link. To the scamera supporters it would be obvious that getting caught by cameras means they speed more so speeders have more accidents. It may also be that the drivers of certain colour cars are on average less observant so tend to get caught out by cameras and have more accidents. There may be no link at all and a more careful look at the results may show that the similarity is superficial, the Monash study clearly states that the visibility of the various colours appears to be the reason for the results. There are quite a few studies from the Monash that do not back up the speed kills message, if you want to dismiss the ones you do not like you cannot use the 'good' ones either. The table on P8 (p16 in Acrobat) and following notes are interesting and include confidence limits which is good, a later table gives the proportions of the vehicle colours in the data used for this study.

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toltec wrote:
There are quite a few studies from the Monash that do not back up the speed kills message, if you want to dismiss the ones you do not like you cannot use the 'good' ones either..


Perhaps I should have put a smiley on my last comment there :)

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