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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 16:41 
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BMW will abandon a vehicle design it attributes to better grip, traction, steering and comfort in the quest for better fuel economy and demand for smaller vehicles.
BMW yesterday confirmed it would finally follow other luxury rivals – including Mercedes-Benz and Audi – by building a front-wheel-drive small car.

BMW boss Dr Norbert Reithofer yesterday said at an annual accounts conference that new compact and sub-compact models would help boost profits and reduce the company’s fuel consumption and overall CO2 emissions.

“In the future we will launch more Mini and BMW models and variants – also in the small-car segment,” said Reithofer. “This segment is expected to grow further, and we will take advantage of this opportunity.
“We are exploring the possibility of developing a joint architecture for the front-wheel- and four-wheel-drive systems of these cars. In other words, there will be front-wheel-drive BMWs in the smaller vehicle classes in the future.”

Despite owning the Mini brand that popularised front-wheel-drive for the world, the German car maker has previously criticised front-drive vehicles for reducing grip and corrupting steering – even ruling out Audi as a genuine rival because its front-wheel-drive cars were not suited to luxury motoring.

All current BMW passenger cars are rear-wheel drive, including its smallest model the 1-Series, with one executive once stating “premium cars have rear-wheel drive because of comfort and design.”
When the BMW 1-Series arrived in 2004 BMW said its rear-drive layout was crucial, saying it “ensures improved grip and better traction under acceleration” and that it delivers “optimum grip leaving the front wheels to steer”.

The new front-wheel-drive BMW platform is understood to be capable of underpinning models ranging from 3.8 to 4.3 metres long, which at their extremes are slightly smaller than the current Mini and slightly longer than a Volkswagen Golf.

The architecture is expected to debut on the next-generation Mini due in 2014, with industry reports suggesting the platform could spawn up to 20 different models.
The second-generation 1-Series due in 2011 is likely to remain rear-wheel drive, and BMW has yet to reveal whether its new sub-compact range would be called the 0-Series.

Peugeot-Citroen (PSA) would be expected to be BMW’s preferred choice of car maker it decides to share development costs for the platform. The French car-making group already has an alliance in place to share four-cylinder engines between front-wheel-drive Peugeots and Citroens and Minis.


What a sad day. :(

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 18:34 
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I have never driven a BMW. It would appear to me that rear wheel drive is all fine and dandy when space is not at a premium. I'm sure that the average BM drives much nicer than my car and nearer the limit the handling would be "better" (I can't stand understeer).

We live on a small island and space is at a premium. For most people, most of the time front wheel drive will give the best compromise of space and handling.


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What's to be sad about?! It's not like they're stopping manufacture of rear wheel drive cars, they're just going to front wheel drive for the "shopping trolleys" - which seems like a perfectly sensible move to me! The new car CO2 regulation means that car manufacturers have to reduce their corporate average CO2 emissions year on year by a set percentage. The easiest way to do that will be to change the mix of cars that they sell. The obvious way out for a manufacturer whose product range comprises largely sporting executive cars is to flog some city cars too. (I guess it's why Aston started developing the Cygnet)!

Besides, while I acknowledge the undisputed advantages of rear wheel drive, I think BMW have rather down-played the (also undisputible!) advantages of front wheel drive - and there certainly are some!


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No doubt people will be queuing up to pay a premium for a small fwd BMW. The ultimate driv.... oh, much the same as every other £15k hatch back :lol:


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Why so sad :( BMW is just targeting another market, that's all.


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No doubt people will be queuing up to pay a premium for a small fwd BMW. The ultimate driv.... oh, much the same as every other £15k hatch back :lol:

No -add a bit on ,the badge parked outside on the drive gets one over on the Jones non BMW -worth a bit of snob appeal at the office -or even as a small repmobile - some firms might even use them for that purpose to impress clients .

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Mole wrote:
Besides, while I acknowledge the undisputed advantages of rear wheel drive, I think BMW have rather down-played the (also indisputable!) advantages of front wheel drive - and there certainly are some!
For those who see a personal vehicle merely as an alternative to mass transit, FWD's benefits are indeed numerous.

I'm also aware that FWD vehicles are cheaper for manufacturers to build.

(I personally was happy to install summer tires on my ex-wife's Caprice 9C1, specifically so that she wouldn't even consider driving to work during inclement weather in a RWD car with a Corvette engine. The disadvantage of FWD here, would be that she could not take that day off.)

Although I have driven FWD cars that prove someone in the chassis and suspension departments cared about impressing the driver, there's a reason why Porsche and Ferrari never made a FWD car.
They're probably a little upset about this news too - they may be seeing the future.

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