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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:40 
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A500 speed camera vans scoop £80,000 in fines over three months
MOBILE camera vans parked up to catch drivers speeding through the A500 roadworks have raked in almost £80,000 in fines in just three months.
Figures obtained by The Sentinel show 1,333 drivers were caught speeding between the A34 Talke junction and the A53 at Etruria.
They were handed £60 fines and three penalty points after being snapped on the stretch between January 1 and March 31.
It means the camera vans have netted £79,980 if all the £60 fines have been paid.
The fines were dished out to drivers breaking the temporary 50mph limit through the two-mile roadworks stretch.

The limit was cut to 40mph on April 1.

But motorists are questioning why the speed limit is in place 24 hours a day when contractors are only working between 10pm and 6am. Insulation company boss John Moogan had appealed against his £60 fine after being caught on the A500, near Bradwell, at 10.58am on February 13. He later paid the fine and then paid for a driver awareness course to avoid getting three penalty points.

The 60-year-old, of Audley, said: "It is ridiculous having the speed restrictions during the day because there are no workmen there.
"There are so many people using the roads that they are making a lot of money.
"Almost £80,000 in three months is a nice turnover for any business, especially when it is just one man sat in a van."

Paul Biggs, Staffordshire representative for the Association of British Drivers, said: "It is cynical revenue raising."

The cameras are expected to remain in place until the roadworks are completed in July.
A Highways Agency spokesman said: "We are carrying out work on the central reservation of the A500 which involves the safety fence being removed and replaced.
"It is imperative to the safety of both road users and road workers that an enforced reduced speed limit is in place 24 hours a day."
The Sentinel asked Staffordshire Safer Roads Partnership – which operates the county's speed cameras – to comment on the number of motorists caught and explain how the partnership is funded. But the partnership failed to respond to The Sentinel.

I am sure the old Highway robbers, wished that they had come up with this idea !
How sad that road safety has been left in the hands of private businesses with one single aim of enforcing speed limit compliance.

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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:13 
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It's sad that you still believe that the organisations that enforce speed are still or even ever have been "private businesses with one single aim of enforcing speed limit compliance"; you have missed the point somewhat.

It is encouraging that you have had no say in this article, that seems to be happening more-and-more these days, hurrah!

Road works speed limits are in force at this location because the road works, as are others, are there 24/7 therefore the dangers, whatever they may be are present 24/7.

The introduction of selecting speed depending on the clear and present danger perceived by the motorist at road works as they approach at speed would, in my opinion, create unacceptable expectations and behaviour by drivers at road works. It is also my opinion that common regulation and modified behaviour is far easier to legislate that would be a variable regulation depending on road working activity.

You have criticised the current system now over to you to come up with an alternative. Perhaps you would be able to come up with a working system that could be implemented that introduces variable speed limits at road works based upon driver assessment as they approach and /or controlled by the road works traffic management authority.


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GreenShed wrote:
are there 24/7 therefore the dangers, whatever they may be are present 24/7.

I thought folks were worried about the workers?

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It is also my opinion that common regulation

Do needless blanket applied limitations used within changing conditions foster respect?

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You have criticised the current system now over to you to come up with an alternative. Perhaps you would be able to come up with a working system that could be implemented that introduces variable speed limits at road works based upon driver assessment as they approach and /or controlled by the road works traffic management authority.

... or controlled by the workers, or even just by the time of day (when workers are expected). Other countries have time dependent limits.
That's of course assuming enforcement, sorry, evidence capture by camera is needed at all.

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Perhaps you would be able to come up with a working system that could be implemented that introduces variable speed limits at road works based upon driver assessment as they approach and /or controlled by the road works traffic management authority.


Simple - get rid of the money element in road safety .Scuttle the so called road safety CONsultants,and bring in the PROPER ROAD SAFETY EXPERTS -those blokes in white caps :bib: :bib: - they've only got to start stopping a few of those "in a hurry" for the message to get rammed home -and they might even educate some people about their cars /maintenance of,and driving thereof ( thought you might like a service like phrase thrown in) .Since the introduction of speed limits( loooong before the idea of the blind enforcing daft ideas) :bib: have done speed management on driver ability .What GS doesn't and never will( ,as it sinks his boat of limit enforcement ornamented ideas) is that one County in the UK that never had SCP , consistently returned the safest roads in the UK .

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