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My original letter was a slightly shortened and edited version of this page of my website. It apperared in the paper but not on their web site.

Mr Hewitt, of the Hants Camera Partnership, wrote this response.
His denial of the existence of the 15% rule is particularly odd, I thought. It's even mentioned on the Dorset scammer/council site.

Is it true about the number killed in 2004? I was unable to find this figure published anywhere.

I might write another response; any suggestions?

I'd focus on this abuse of stats in Hewitt's reply:

"Last year the number of people killed or seriously injured on our camera routes fell by 62 per cent, reducing misery and pain for accident victims and bringing financial and resource benefits for the whole community."

Notice how he's avoided claiming that cameras caused the reduction? I wonder what he knows?

Here's how it's done:
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/gambling.html
The 'rttm' error is the largest:
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/rttm.html

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Oh, and another false claim is that they have all the camera locations on their web site. Neither the mobile camera outside the hospital nor a similarly concealed one I passed today in Rookley are listed!

Also I can't prove it but they definitely looked like they were targetting people on both sides of the road with the hidden camera.

So casualties increase becuase of an increase in motorcycle deaths - not our problem gov.

casualties decrease - nothing to do with a decline in motorcycle use throughout 04 (sales down, test passes down, mileage down).

this selective quotation of statistics is unacceptable. If the scamerati want the credit for casualty reduction they cannot argue seasonal trends when it suites them.

The simple facts are - we've had 10 years of cameras and fatal accidents are roughly the same now as they were then.

Thats OK then....when motorcyclists die its not a road safety issue...

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Speed camera policy Kills

One thing that has happened as a result of all this bikes are dangerous spin is that many decent hardworking motorcycle training schools are going bust.

the govt. know that if they cut bike use they cut casualties and can claim success.

The published date of his letter of response might offer a clue.

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'The normally careful and competent actions of a reasonable person should be considered legal, regardless of the letter of statute'

Rioman, Herts