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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 18:13 
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A massive increase in the number of traffic lights – and an un-discussed 2005 increase in the priority given to pedestrians – is gradually causing the roads to grind to a halt, according to a new report.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/28/traffic_light_report/

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 18:50 
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I would guess that a 30% increase is nothing for the Telford area, with them probaly doubling over the last 8 years and sprouting up monthly. They want to put them on a T junction,near me, that at any given time only has 3 cars waiting to emerge at most ( often none when the roads are quiet), whereas the road that they would join is a busy through way, which would result in long tailbacks for the sake of just a few cars emerging which would have cleared within a few seconds waiting anyway. It's not as if you ever see pedestrians at this junction.

I'm sure that the double glazing salesmen of old,, are now hassling council highways departments, with, "too good to be true", sales offers :headbash:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 21:43 
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that at any given time only has 3 cars waiting to emerge at most ( often none when the roads are quiet), whereas the road that they would join is a busy through way, which would result in long tailbacks for the sake of just a few cars emerging which would have cleared within a few seconds waiting anyway. It's not as if you ever see pedestrians at this junction.


Funny thing, that statement. Residents are using that same argument against the installation of signals at M55 J3. Except that I see a queue there regularly and the new lights will help matters considerably at peak periods.

There have also been comments about one of my own junction, which was installed pre-emptively for town centre traffic flow changes. If you are that concerned about the appearance of these signals, ask your local authority to justify their reasoning, ask for the models of the junction (they are public information after all) and the costs involved.

On the flip side, I completely agree that the proliferation of traffic signals that has occurred since the requirement for authorisation was removed is rediculous. While many new installations ARE necessary, the problem is that local authorities dont seem to continue to monitor and check whether existing installations remain justifiable. I have tried to introduce a justification criteria... but the usual "fear of change" attitude persists, in all the wrong places.


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This might justifiably annoy motorists, as it is they [motorists]who pay for the streets and roads. ...cyclists and pedestrians use the facilities for free.


Apart from the bad grammar it is impossible to take anyone who makes a statement like that seriously. Most pedestrians and cyclist have a car in the garage and pay the appropriate taxes even though they aren't congesting the roads with it. And non car owners make a substantial contribution to the treasury. As a non car owner I still contribute about £500 pa to the road budget. I think that that entitles me to the odd PeLiCon crossing :)

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