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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 01:06 
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When is flashing other motorists justified?
Posted 28th Feb 2011 by James Baggott
Filed under: Opinion/Editorial, Safety, Pedestrian safety , Features

Every driver has been there: you're motoring along, then all of a sudden cars on the other side of the road start flashing their lights at you.

After a moment's confusion, you realise what they're flashing about. You slow down, spot the speed camera van at the side of the road and breathe a sigh of relief. Without the warnings you could have strayed slightly over the limit and faced a hefty fine and points on your licence.

The argument as to whether that's right or wrong will rumble on, but now a new poll by the Institute of Advanced Motorists (IAM) has revealed that despite the chance of prosecution nearly half of all drivers would flash their lights to warn of traps.

The survey was carried out following driver Michael Thompson's prosecution at Grimsby magistrates court last month for flashing oncoming motorists to warn them of a police speed camera. He was handed a £440 court bill for 'obstructing police'.

Nearly 70 per cent of the 4,800 motorists surveyed by the IAM believed Thompson shouldn't have been prosecuted - while 21 per cent said he should.
"The biggest reason for not flashing to warn of a speed check is safety, with "drivers who speed deserve to be caught and fined" and "the meaning of the flash could be misinterpreted" each polling a third of the votes from those who don't flash," explained IAM chief examiner Peter Rodger.
"However, safety was also used as a major justification for those who do flash to warn of speed checks, with nearly 20 per cent saying they "wanted to avoid a possible collision when drivers see the speed check late and brake harshly in response". The driver who was prosecuted for using his lights justified his behaviour by stating he used his lights to warn of a hazard."
In light of the IAM poll and Thompson's prosecution, Autoblog wants to canvas your opinion on the debate – do you think flashing your headlights to warn other drivers of a trap is the right thing to do? Or do drivers that speed deserve to get caught? We'd love to hear your opinion. Vote in our poll and then post your comments below.

Poll Results
Is flashing your lights to warn other drivers of a speed trap, the right thing to do? :
Yes - 85% - 21619
Maybe - 7% - 1948
No - 8% - 1918
Total Votes: 25,485
This is an illegal use of lights, but it is a learned 'by experience' use of them too in the 'real world'. It might also warn of various problem/s for the oncoming traffic too. The issue with flashing lights is that it can be ambiguous and some confusion that might result. But, it usually makes people slow as they go on alert and travel with extra vigilance and caution. By paying greater attention to the road they are likely to notice hazards more quickly.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 08:57 
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Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.

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Never assume that flashing headlights is a signal inviting you to proceed. Use your own judgement and proceed carefully

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Now THAT is where the Highway Code falls down.

It should at least offer advice on how to alert oncoming drivers to a hazard ahead.

The road into Windermere has a blind brow, over which traffic is often queuing to enter Windermere at busy times. There are signs advising of queuing traffic - but of course the traffic often queues much further back, so I often flash drivers approaching the blind bend/brow to alert them that traffic is stationary just ahead.

I would not bother alerting a driver of a speed trap if they were not driving safely, but I would flash my lights after passing a speed trap operated by an SCP merely to underline my disgust at their antics on the road and in court towards flashing motorists! :soapbox:

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Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.

In view of this, isn't it pretty impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that anyone flashing their lights was only warning other of their presence? What incontovertible evidence would there be that they had any other motive? It's not like the guy who held up a sign saying "speed trap ahead".

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malcolmw wrote:
In view of this, isn't it pretty impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that anyone flashing their lights was only warning other of their presence? What incontovertible evidence would there be that they had any other motive? It's not like the guy who held up a sign saying "speed trap ahead".


And it would be easy to claim that you were flashing you lights because you had just passed an animal in the road. That is a quite common thing have to do in sheep country.

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