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It was at the weekend and I also did it legally.

Could be very quick and likely as not, only a biker who will get it.

Just a quick bit of fun, so probably more of a who gets it first...

Popping out just now; back later.

Tone

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Good track-day Tone? Slow group, right?

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Easy peasy. You had a blast up the B4368 at 60MPH and the locals "clocked you doing over the ton"...happens all the time...lol

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Just got back...




Na!



Na!

I could give a clue and you may want to slap me afterwards but technically, technically, what I have said is true.

PS. I don't think I'm the only one to have done this, maybe not at the same speed, and it can also apply to cyclists...

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It's not that you took it on a train ? ... and that did 100mph ?

Is this a new competition - brain teasers !

Ah another idea - you got done by Police for something and they had your bike in the van and that then got a call and the bike (with or without you) did 100mph ?

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Na Claire!

But I like the lateral thinking

I didn't think of your suggestion because I know what I'm thinking and expecting.

I should really be aiming this at Pete317 for making a monkey out of me on switches, but I deserved it

If a biker doesn't get this I'm going to hack my scrotum off.

Tone the monkey

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An indicated 100mph! No lie...

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Wheels off ground and spinning away? Or on a dyno?

Or, I once did an extreme wheelspin on ice in my car in top gear, the speedo needle bounced on the endstop Please don't tell me you did that on a bike

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Well I'm going to have to give it you Steve.

There was a hint, "PS" for paddock stand. Most bikers, or maybe it's just me, after washing it you like to stick it in gear and spin the wheel to oil and clean it or throw off any excess water etc.

So at the weekend I thought I'd put it in top gear and give it a quick rev to 5000rpm = 100mph (Boys and their toys eh?)

Well, it didn't take long; I'll make it harder next time

Maybe Claire hit on something here, about a new lateral thinking thread? Anyone got any more? What's black and white and read all over?

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Na! I’ve done some good smokin’ burn-outs just before my tyre needs changing, but that’s in 1st gear at about 30mph, indicated again of course.

Oh, for any non-bikers this is what I'm on about

I’m surprised the speedo sensor is taken from the back wheel actually. Must be method in their madness..

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I don’t know why that is either, but I guess it could be related to traction control, either to stop accidental wheelspin, or prevent an over-steering lock while braking.

Or it could be that bikers like to know they're riding safely by remaining within the speed limit, when pulling wheelies

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Well Done Steve ...

I thought they were bike stands that you padlock too ! Ah well win some, loose some .... !
I am also curious why the speedo is not on the drive wheel - have to ask them !

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At the risk of showing my age and maybe an interesting spinoff..

Back in the old days when they used a mechanical worm drive and cable, which periodically snapped, it was always taken from the front wheel. It was also useful for naughty people to disconnect and stop the clock or if you attached a drill to the end of the cable you could reverse the displayed mileage

This was the most logical way to get a speed reading because the front wheel is closer to the clocks with an easier route.

As technology moved on this changed to an electronic sensor but was still taken from the front wheel, as I recall. So for the longest time this is how it was until at some point and for reasons not known to me they decided to take it from the rear driven wheel. This means I could do a thousand miles without moving anywhere.

And that’s where my story ends.

Well, while I’m travelling down memory lane you may remember this one.. There are two doors and both of them are guarded; one by a man who always lies and the other who always tells the truth. The one door leads to heaven and the other leads to hell but you don’t know which. Your dilemma is that you have to pass through one and want to go to heaven but you can only ask one of the guard’s just one question. What is that question? (No need to reply, we all know it eh?)

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Actually, I’ve got more woffle..

Back in those days of ‘cables for everything’ I had a lovely little device which has long since disappeared. I probably lent to some goof who never returned it.

Imagine a short bicycle pump except the handle was something you turned and a plunger inside would move up and down. A bit like a fountain pen, if I’m not the only person left on Earth who still uses one.

Now there was a clever mechanism whereby you could disassemble the front or bottom part and put it over the cable and then screw a threaded round bit on, which you had to put over the cable first, and this compressed a thick rubber washer with a hole in the middle making an oil tight seal around the cable. The pressure on the washer reduces the hole diameter thereby clamping firmly around the outside of the cable.

Ooo! I just thought of another way of describing this process.. Think of the olive used in plumbing which fits loosely on until you tighten the doobrie bit that screws on which you put on first.

At this point you take the top off the turny handle bit and pour oil in the chamber, holding it upright so as not to lose the oil of course. When the top bit was screwed back on you could turn the handle which forced the oil though the cable until it came out the other end.

And if that isn’t the worst description of something mechanical, I don’t know what is. If you understood that half as much as me then I understood it twice as much as you.

The method before that was to try and make a funnel over the cable and then fill it with thin oil. If you’re lucky, ten years later it might trickle through.

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That sounds a bit like a syringe syphon type arrangement !

The heaven hell question is complicated as if it is the hell guard they are likely to lie ... so you have to ask a very smart question - there are answers here, here and here but claims the first answer is wrong, but then the voted best answer suddenly assumes that you can ans them both a question which is pretty dumb !They all assume that the hell door will lie, but they may not.
But here & here agree that the first answer is right ...

Edited to add - here is another take on it too.

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It's late and I'm knackered again Claire

Without looking at your links, cuz I put me electric banket on an hour ago and I need to do me teeth now, I'm sure it was something like 'if I asked the other guy which door I should take which one would he say' and then you take the one he doesn't suggest.

Ah, something like that...

"Goodnight, thank you, and may your God go with you" for ten points

Edit: Just recently I went to see a patient and her lovely Irish dad said to me, (this won't translate very well here beacuse the spelling will give it away)..

"44 men went into a bar and ordered 40 drinks and yet they all had a drink with 4 drinks left over" How come?

That's the best way I can put it sorry.

Right - warm bed and me teddy bear next.. Zzzz

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I know next to nothing about bikes, but I imagine the speedo reading comes from the back wheel just because it's now cheaper. As soon as you go to electronic clocks, all they need is a signal proportional to speed. If there is anything electionic on the bike that needs to know speed, it will just share that information with the speedo, so there's no need for a separate sensor, it will just use the same one and the software will multiply or divide it as required by the speedo head.

The evolution of speedos on cars is similar. They used to be mechanical, cable driven from the back of the gearbox (after all the gears!). Some used to come from a front wheel with a separate gear train. As electronic instruments replaced mechanical ones, they made the cable drive an electro-mechanical signal generator, which then fed an electrical signal to the speedo. Gradually, they realised that they already had one of those on each wheel (the ABS sensors), so they just used the ABS sensor signals. Nowadays, they use a speed input for a whole load of things (e.g. shortening the delay on the intermittent wipe as you go faster, or subtly turning the stereo up as speed increases), so the ABS sensors just make road speed "available" on the CAN bus, and anything that needs a speed input, like the speedo, just takes it as required!

Unfortunately, I can't fix that sort, whereas I knew where I was with a cable and gear!

(P.S. Tone, I thought your description of a cable oiler was rather good)!!

That is the correct answer provided that both guys know the veracity of the other one.

But this answer seems to work even if they don't
"If honest guards go to heaven and lying ones go to hell, which way do you deserve to go?"
Truth-teller says, "I deserve to go to this path" *points at path to heaven*
Liar says, "I deserve to go to this path" *points at path to heaven*

And, sorry Tone, no amount of lateral thinking admits that your motor cycle did 100mph. That is why my similar device for a pedal cycle is called a stationary trainer even when the speedometer reads 30mph.

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Tone, did the back tyre "grow" at 100MPH, by the way? I tried it on a car on axle stands once, and was amazed to see the tyres visibly "grow" as the wheel spun up! (It was doing about 150 though)!

Why thank you Mole, and I liked your post; very interesting.

Oh I know but it’s in the SS rulebook. You do have the latest issue I take it?

I didn’t but I have another story.. “Oh no!” I hear you say

My mate once put a mudguard on his GS750 back in 1978 and it looked fine. One day, some weeks later, he noticed a strange groove in the tyre. Long story short: the screw he used to fix the guard protruded in towards the tyre even though it was nowhere near it.

From memory it was a good inch away and you really wouldn’t have thought anything of it but the tyre had expanded and the screw had cut a groove into it. Looking back he was very lucky, it could have been catastrophic and his speed really could have killed him.

Hec, I think that’s the first time I’ve ever said speed kills. I need to lie down...

P.S. I wonder if modern tyre construction means they don't expand like the ones back then

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.