dcbwhaley wrote:
Steve wrote:
I suspect a person is a little bit bigger and more noticeable than objects that are 4 x 1/60 of a degree wide (23mm at 20m away) - wouldn't you agree?
But not visible to that driver
You said "5/20", and I quantatively showed what that means.
So how do you know that driver would not have been able to see something much larger than that when "illuminated"? This was your conclusion and criteria, so please explain it.
Even if you are correct, your argument case is perfect for rejecting wanton use of the Primary Position </off topic>
dcbwhaley wrote:
Challenging indeed. But a challenge that, if you drive in the dark, you have to be capable of meeting.
I agree in principle, but can you expect everyone to do that with absolutely 100% reliability? (accounting for distractions). You can't limit the argument to legitimate drivers.
Isn't this why the "pragmatic" approach is also used?
dcbwhaley wrote:
... exonerates ...
There you go again Dave, misrepresenting the outcome of the case.
dcbwhaley wrote:
That is that thinking that exonerates rapists because the victim was wearing sexy clothing.
Not in our culture, Dave. Your desperation is clearly showing!
If I can turn your own previous tactic against you: "
What on earth has the sexual appearance of women to do with the topic under discussion? "
dcbwhaley wrote:
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It is the responsibility of motorists to try to avoid other road users, it is also the responsibility of other road users to ensure they don't place themselves in that danger. Isn't that reasonable?
The first is a legal obligation. The second is a pragmatic response to motorists ignoring that first obligation.
Who said it was 'ignored'? Do you conclude that driver didn't care about that risk?
Would road safety be furthered by making the latter a legal obligation too?
My point remains: your perception of the forum is wrong, again
Again, again: "
In our case, the driver was not exonerated! Has anyone here said or implied that he should have been?"
If the victim was not reckless, the incident would have been avoided, even with these shortcomings of drivers.