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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 23:28 
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Anti-social drivers in Surrey targeted in crackdown
12 November 2010 Last updated at 14:26

A vehicle inspector examines an engine More than 40 vehicles were checked by inspectors
More than 170 motorists were stopped during a crackdown on anti-social drivers in Surrey.
Police and other enforcement agencies took action against more than 150 of them, for offences ranging from speeding to using mobile phones.
Some of the vehicle checks, on the A25 Reigate Road in Dorking, uncovered defects and tax-disc offences.
In some cases prohibition notices or fixed penalties were issued. In others advice and warnings were given.

Surrey police, who co-ordinated the Roadside Education and Enforcement Day (Reed), said they were aiming to re-educate drivers who had lapsed into bad habits.
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DRIVING DEFECTS
* 34 speeding
* 43 seat-belt offences
* 28 using mobile phones
* 8 over-tinted windows
* 22 vehicle defects
* 6 tax-disc offences

Officials from licensing and vehicle services agencies, the Environment Agency, local councils and taxi inspectors also took part.

In just five hours a total of 174 vehicles were stopped. Action was taken against 34 motorists travelling over the 40mph speed limit; 43 drivers or passengers not wearing seat belts and 28 people driving while using a hand-held phone.

More than 40 vehicle examinations were carried out and 13 prohibition notices issued - including eight for vehicles with excessively tinted windows - 22 vehicle defects noted and six vehicle licensing offences dealt with.

Action taken depended on the offence, and ranged from verbal warnings or advice to a fixed-penalty notice (including fine and points) and requirement to comply with the Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme.

Mole Valley neighbourhood police Inspector Terri Poulton said: "The day was a great example of how we are working together to target local concerns and make Surrey's roads safer.
"Getting tough on anti-social motorists is a priority for Surrey Police."
Good, delighted to see proper policing and reminding drivers of all the aspects to motoring. We do need to ensure that all enforcement is proportional and correct and ongoing scientific research and development must be carried out honestly and without bias to achieve true answers and good road safety.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 23:38 
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Happens pretty regularly in London, one lane of the road is coned off and some passing vehicles directed into it. Vehicles that aren't road worthy are kept aside, along with some of the pick up trucks that came to pick them up!


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This is good but it should be carried out by local neighbourhood teams rather than wasting public money in using all those government officials

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Are you seriously suggesting that community speedwatch type organisations should be allowed to randomly stop cars to check them out?

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malcolmw wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting that community speedwatch type organisations should be allowed to randomly stop cars to check them out?


No. :D It was a sarcastic dig at community speed watch. Inspired by something I heard on the Today program this morning. Some government minister thinks that it would be a good idea to let local groups determine the speed limits in their community.

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Yes, I heard that report as well. This would be a disaster IMO.

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intresting read about over tinted windows, as a budding naturist if i remove my tints will i get done for indecent exposure


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........it would be a good idea to let local groups determine the speed limits in their community.


Are things that far removed from that now? It seems that a couple of local whingers, complaining about "speeding maniacs", can result in a speed limit drop for the slighest reason, although perhaps not quite as low as some would like.

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Are things that far removed from that now? It seems that a couple of local whingers, complaining about "speeding maniacs", can result in a speed limit drop for the slighest reason, although perhaps not quite as low as some would like.


But if the entire community was asked, including the drivers, you might get a different answer.

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That was Lady Newlove - Thread here.
It was a passing comment from what I can see and rather flippant, I am not convinced she was serious.

We do however have local councils that set speed limits regularly and when they had clear speeds for types of roads it was fair enough.... but how tings have changed. Are their local engineers even consulted any more before it is set now ...
Anyway back on topic ... to have Police stop and check is exactly what they should be doing although I'd rather have it that they have a genuine reason to stop people than random checks but if this works then is it required because they are on the road less?
With regular Police patrols and presence that acts as a good deterrent too.
I am concerned if Police stop and fine for everything and everyone for everything they can as that makes them look heavy handed when a ticking off is all that is necessary in some instances and some cases. These figures will of course only show what they prosecuted for not the 'tick-offs' of course ! :)

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Is this really the "proper road policing" we'd like to see? Notice that all the offences are tick-box, strict-liability offences. Where is the 'education'? This does nothing worthwhile to address the falling standards on our roads.

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