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i really don't get your point (and I suspect you don't too) Accident RATES have nothing to do with fatalities so why start talking about accident rates and then talk about 100% fatality rates...you really are one mixed up person, weepy.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Nice!

I must say on a bulletin board which was not so biased you'd've been banned quite a while ago for abuse I suspect!

The point is comparing crash rates on urban and rural roads is totally meaningless, they are totally different environments.

And that rural roads are disproportionally more dangerous to be on or around.

AHEM- 1 person walking/cycling + the car that crushed them = 2 users . So we have two users, and rate (using your logic) drops to 50%. I know it's not right, but there's the difference between pre camera days and post camera propaganda, and handed out nicely by one in favour of cameras ( but obviously a bit short on road safety knowledge).

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

You obviously miss out the common factor in accident avoidance, in the country - driver skill. Or being taught how to read a road. It's a life saver. Like a lot of other posters on this thread, I learned to drive when RWD was the standard, and most cars had little better rear end adhesion than a Moggie Minor van.One mistake and you slid . An in my neck of the woods, black faced sheep lover to spend the night on the tarmac, where it was warm .
Just one titbit , you're driving on a windy ,narrow country road, when you spot a medium truck coming toward you and you suspect that road width might be a problem.
Do you
a) Stop
b) )and work out how to meet him on the straightest section, by slowing down/speeding up
c) do nothing.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

If you think that this is abuse then you have led a sheltered life!

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

It is abuse.

It's unnecessary, nasty and uncalled for and if I, or anybody else abused by this poster reacted in kind this board would soon become unmanageable.

What would you say in response? "Graball, I think it is you who are mixed up."

Very abusive. Not.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

If you say so weepy, statistics prove that you are far more likely to have an accident in an urban environment regardless of numbers of cars passing your little bubble and you are seriously mixed up when you start comparing accident rates to fatality rates and assuming they are the same...


Anyway, what's the matter, don't public servants use the words "mixed up"? I realise that you are so politically correct these days that anything more dangerous than cotton wool is risk assessed but surely...."mixed up"??? What else is banned...dolly mixtures at the xmas party?

I could be really naughty and call you "Totally confused", but I don't want to get banned...

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

As a general law which holds true for all forums I've ever been on: the level of ridicule is directly proportional to the absurdity of the claim.

The exceptions I've seen are religious sites and Brake. (Which is just another form of opium for the flat earth masses).

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

succinctly you have proven that you do not understand accident rates. Accident rates are quoted as an expression of miles travelled versus accidents. Your example would simply show 1 accident per x miles travelled, since x is unknown we don't know if this is above or below the average. The mode of transport is irrelevant, since it will be a reported accident.

Whereas using the speed kills propaganda, we can turn the argument on it's head. One car with four occupants leaves the road in an accident, all are killed, thus 4 people are killed. But only one accident has occurred, are you learning anything yet Weepy?

I DOUBT IT. Since not one biker is involved. Weepy has not learned the principle of getting stuck in the countryside - when in hole don't dig down.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on