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Chris Huhne admits perverting the course of justice
4 February 2013 Last updated at 20:50

Huhne: "The only proper course of action for me is now to resign my Eastleigh seat"

Chris Huhne has resigned as an MP after he admitted perverting the course of justice over claims his ex-wife took speeding points for him a decade ago.
The ex-Lib Dem cabinet minister changed his plea on the first day of his trial at Southwark Crown Court after failing in a bid to have the case dismissed.

His former wife, Vicky Pryce, has pleaded not guilty to the same offence.
The judge ruled that text messages from Huhne's son urging him to admit he was the driver could be used in evidence.
Mr Justice Sweeney revealed Huhne's legal team had previously made two applications to get the case dismissed or suspended (stayed), but these were not granted, allowing the trial to proceed.

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Speaking outside court, Huhne said: "Having taken responsibility for something that happened 10 years ago, the only proper course of action for me is to resign my Eastleigh seat in Parliament, which I will do shortly."

Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg said he was "shocked and saddened" by Huhne's admission but said his former challenger for the party leadership had "taken the right decision in resigning as an MP".
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Chris Huhne has never shied away from political controversy - but it was his desperation to avoid a speeding ban that resulted in the undoing of his career.
The Liberal Democrats say he intends to voluntarily remove himself from the Privy Council - which gives him the title "Right Honourable".
One year ago he stood outside his flat and declared: "I am innocent of these charges." Today he admitted he was not.
It is the kind of fall from grace that seems only possible at Westminster. Politicians have no monopoly on deceit. And yet often their lie is larger and lasts for longer.
It is as if some politicians seem so full of hubris they cannot resist flying so close to the sun and then seem surprised when, like Icarus, they fall to the ground.
Huhne's name will now be added to that list of John Profumo, Jonathan Aitken and Jeffrey Archer, politicians all brought down by their ability to lie to Parliament or the courts.
We still remember Jonathan Aitken's promise to use the simple sword of truth and trusty shield of British fair play before he was jailed for perjury.
Some Lib Dems say Huhne should not be written off. They talk of comebacks. Maybe. But one thing is certain: trust in British public life took a hit today. Voters often say politicians lie. Today they were right.


BBC chief political correspondent Norman Smith said that by standing down, Huhne - a Lib Dem "big hitter" - was accepting that his career was over.

Huhne and Ms Pryce were charged last year over an incident in March 2003 when Huhne's car was allegedly caught by a speed camera on the motorway between Stansted Airport in Essex and London.
It is alleged that between 12 March and 21 May 2003, Ms Pryce, 60, from Clapham in south London, who was still married to Huhne, falsely informed police that she was the driver of the car so he could avoid prosecution.
The prosecution revealed Huhne had a history of speeding and was in danger of losing his licence, having already accrued nine penalty points.

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Huhne had vowed to fight the charges and last week pleaded not guilty.
His barrister, John Kelsey-Fry QC, had previously attempted to get the Huhne case thrown out of court, describing the prosecution's evidence as "insufficient", "circumstantial" and "at best gossamer thin".
He also claimed the media had constantly assumed Huhne was guilty, which meant the ex-minister could not possibly receive a fair trial.
But text messages between Huhne and his son Peter, sent in May 2011 and declared admissible in court by Mr Justice Sweeney, revealed Peter put pressure on Huhne to "accept responsibility" for the offence.

Peter said: "We all know that you were driving and you put pressure on Mum. Accept it or face the consequences. You've told me that was the case. Or will this be another lie?"
Huhne replied: "I have no intention of sending Mum to Holloway Prison for three months. Dad"
A year ago, Huhne told reporters he was "innocent of these charges" and vowed to fight them in the courts
His son asked: "Are you going to accept your responsibility or do I have to contact the police and tell them what you told me?" later adding: "It's not about her its about your accepting your responsibility to me."
After days of legal argument, Mr Justice Sweeney ruled against both applications a week ago, meaning legal action could proceed.
On Monday, Mr Kelsey-Fry invited the court to read the indictment to Huhne once more, even though he had already pleaded not guilty at last week's hearing.
When the allegation of perverting the course of justice was read he quietly declared that he was guilty.

Ms Pryce was also sitting in the dock and neither showed any emotion as he entered his plea.
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Granting Huhne unconditional bail until a sentence date to be fixed, Mr Justice Sweeney said: "As Mr Kelsey-Fry has foreshadowed, you should have no illusions whatsoever as to the sort of sentence that you are likely to receive."
Ms Pryce's case was adjourned until 10:00 GMT on Tuesday, when a trial is expected to start.
Huhne, from Eastleigh in Hampshire, resigned as energy and climate change secretary after he was charged and has now forced a by-election in his constituency.

Nigel Farage, the leader of the UK Independence Party, said he would announce within the next 24 to 48 hours whether he would stand in the Eastleigh by-election. He previously ran for the same seat in a 1994 by-election.
"I haven't decided yet," he told Channel 4 News. "It's a bit of a shock, things happening today as quickly as they did, I am thinking very hard about whether to stand."
Mr Farage also said he had duties as an MEP in Brussels and that the party had to contest the forthcoming council elections.
"I've got to weight up my responsibilities," he said, adding that there were "many other good people in Ukip".

Huhne received a severance payment of about £17,000 when he resigned his cabinet position. Downing Street have said it was his decision whether to return the money.
The Liberal Democrats have said Huhne intends to voluntarily remove himself from the Privy Council, meaning he will lose his "Right Honourable" title.
Lib Dem leader of Eastleigh Borough Council Keith House said Huhne's resignation was "very, very sad," and described him as a hardworking MP

Chris Huhne: Timeline
March 2003: Huhne, an MEP, is returning home to south London when his vehicle is caught speeding on the M11 in Essex.
May 2005: Huhne is elected MP for Eastleigh, Hampshire.
May 2010: Joins coalition government as Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change. A month later, his affair with PR adviser Carina Trimingham is exposed.
May 2011: Allegations surface in Sunday newspapers that Huhne asked a third party to take his speeding points. Days later, after a formal complaint from Labour MP Simon Danczuk, Essex Police launch a review into the claims. Huhne and Ms Pryce are questioned.
February 2012: Keir Starmer, director of public prosecutions, announces both Huhne and Pryce will be charged with perverting the course of justice. Huhne stands down from the cabinet and states publicly he is innocent of the charge. Both appear in court for the first time.
June 2012: Pryce pleads not guilty of the charge on grounds of marital coercion. Huhne does not enter a plea.
October 2012: Trial is adjourned for legal reasons.
January 2013: Huhne pleads not guilty to the charge.
February 2013: Huhne changes his plea to guilty and resigns as an MP.

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Could I point out that the title of this thread is not quite right. The charge against Huhne was perverting the course of justice. The fact that this resulted from an arguably trivial speeding offence is almost irrelevant.

It does, however, show up the lengths that some people will go to when faced with the reality of automated enforcement and the impact this can have on your life.

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He's a millionaire, several times over.
The speeding case would have resulted in him being disqualified, maybe, for six months.
He could have paid for a driver for that length of time. And maybe claimed it on expenses.
He [allegedly] chose to pervert the course of justice, deliberately.
It is nothing to do with "automated" enforcement. It is more to do with arrogance and disdain for the law.
Anything less than four years custodial will be a travesty.
I expect he will receive less than that, and maybe less than twelve months...which would see him still able to be an mp again.

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malcolmw wrote:
Could I point out that the title of this thread is not quite right. The charge against Huhne was perverting the course of justice. The fact that this resulted from an arguably trivial speeding offence is almost irrelevant.

It does, however, show up the lengths that some people will go to when faced with the reality of automated enforcement and the impact this can have on your life.

Now can we be assured that when someone says they don't know who was driving, and CPS push for one of the occupamts to put their hands up that CPS will be investigated as thouroughly as it appears this case was .

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It was only investigated because his wife told the story.
And it has dragged-on for ten years.

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AFAIK, reading The Times earlier this week, he was already on a ban serving six months. So it wasn’t just about a ban but driving whilst disqualified???

Not about just him, but who in Politics these days is not a cheat, liar, pervert, mercenary, self-interested, selfish tosser? (Rhetorical).

Not a Ms Penny more not a Penny less knickers less...

Paddy ‘Pants Down’
John Major ‘How you doin Eggwina’
Tony Blur’ looks good, apart from taking us all into an illegal war...

I think I touched on all three parties there, (as in, let’s all have a good time; I’m ok thank you very much),

I could have said more, much more, believe it or not. Maybe I should work for Private Eye...

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The fact that Huhne pressurised his wife into having an abortion (and almost a second one) shows him in an even worse light. What a selfish, arrogant, contemptible individual.

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The fact that Huhne pressurised his wife into having an abortion (and almost a second one) shows him in an even worse light. What a selfish, arrogant, contemptible individual.

Pryce is fighting to save her own skin - I think that story - or at least the way it is told, is designed to try and get the jury onside!

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Huhne's a tw@t of the highest order - glad he's not in government anymore...

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malcolmw wrote:
Could I point out that the title of this thread is not quite right. The charge against Huhne was perverting the course of justice. The fact that this resulted from an arguably trivial speeding offence is almost irrelevant.

It does, however, show up the lengths that some people will go to when faced with the reality of automated enforcement and the impact this can have on your life.

That's my fault, I was going to reference it back to the Thread Today is H Day as the press references are helpful and I wanted them listed ...
I have now renamed this thread 'Huhne Court Case' perhaps a more apt title, thanks. :)

I think it a most interesting case when we have those 'at the top' ignoring the rules they help to create. I fully appreciate that it is not the 'speed' that is at issue nor whether the ticket is valid or justified, but the entire allotting points procedure against which driver.

There has been no discussion that I am aware of that states she may have even been in or even insured to drive the car ! One is left with the assumption that that was all viable. The lack of this type of discussion is interesting in itself!

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I think it a most interesting case when we have those 'at the top' ignoring the rules they help to create.
Which you would think would make them think twice about what they introduce and how these things are enforced. When people like him and Med Hughes et all get caught it creates a feeling of schadenfreude for me because it must make them realise that what us plebs have to keep living with can also shoot them in their own feet.

One good thing to have come about in recent years, in this country, is how no one is beyond the law like they used to be. Does anyone really think the rules weren't being flouted by the elite and that these illegal values have only recently become commonplace? Of course not, it's just that they are no longer beyond reproach.

Go back 30 years and you can bet if an officer pulled over someone like Huhne or Hughes for speeding you'd hear "don't you know who I am?" and nothing more would be heard. :roll:

Interestingly, and soz for a quick drift but I didn’t read this at the time, it was Hughes who actually said “The debate about road safety has become too polarised around speed cameras” :o :o :clap: I bet Huhne would agree with that now too. Someone should tell BRAKE...

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Because he is being held up for a serious crime, many will pay no attention to his opinion on anything for many, many years to come.
A a previous person of standing he may have had a chance to air his views and be heard, but now the media would crucify anything he said as self serving.

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What's the betting he gets less than 12 months and is back in some sort of "public service" job in less than 2 years ?

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Storm in a teacup. There’s no such thing as bad publicity, as someone once said. Or as Oscar Wild said, “There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about”

I remember working for a company which made jogging machines, (long dead and gone now, including the MD). They got into hot water one day because the poor design caused a fault, (a short circuit), which could make the machine go up to full speed. :shock:

It would launch you backwards, as you can imagine, but the many young and fit people could jump off, (legs either side on the rails), or laugh it off with their mate – until it happened to a pregnant woman one day. It made the local news; bad press complete with name & shame. The result? Sales went up! :doh:

The moral of this story - Never underestimate the stupidity or short memory of the public.

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So, his wife is found guilty. Hardly surprising considering that she obviously was.

The most interesting thing reported today were the results of an insurance company survey that showed that a huge majority of people did not think that taking points for someone else was a serious crime. What this shows is the contempt that the public have for automated enforcement which is seen like the National Lottery and not the law.

I look forward to him getting 5 years and her 5 days in jail.

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The moral of this story - Never underestimate the stupidity or short memory of the public.


That's why the same politicians keep on getting elected . :D .Bit different in local poliitics now that we've got two year stints before re election .

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I look forward to him getting 5 years and her 5 days in jail.
Hmm... I'd want her to serve a bit more than that Malcolm, for trying to 'pull a fast one'.

The way I look at these things is this: If it were me, and I had tried a stunt like hers, what would 'pond life' like me get? :scratchchin:

And shouldn't we add to this the fact that these people in high office are meant to serve as an example of exemplary behaviour and therefore, if anything, should get a stiffer sentence for sullying the reputation and integrity they should have? (Emphasis on "should" these days).

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I look forward to him getting 5 years and her 5 days in jail.

I reckon he will get 2 years at most, and she will get a suspended sentence.

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