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Isn't that the one they have cloud nine on?

Road humps? On motorways? That's a new one on me. Please tell me where they are. Imagine rep man hitting a road hump at 90 - that would certainly slow him down! And as for traffic jams...that's what happens when every tom, dick and harry and their 4 kids drive cars. I have turned more and more to motorcycles now. Far more fuel efficient and don't get affected by traffic. Maybe that's why I have become more interested in road safety. When you are not cocooned by a glass and metal reinforced safety cage you can see the world for what it really is.


You forgot the USA. What's the speed limit over there? Oh yes...50mph. To be honest, I really couldn't care less about other countries. It's my country I'm interested in.


I think you'll find I've made a pretty good case in my earlier posts as to why the 70mph limit should be more strictly enforced and people driving at silly speeds should be punished

Falcon wrote: -Twaddle!

THE DEBATE ISN'T ABOUBT DRIVING "AT SILLY SPEEDS" It's about safety! Read the ruddy forum and perhaps you'll understand and when you do engage brain before opening gob!

Jeez! Another Troll....

I think you'll find that no US state has a 50 mph freeway speed limit, and in much of the Midwest and West it's 75 mph. And don't you think Britain can learn from other countries on anything?


I must have missed that

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Pretty good case, eh?
Because of BMW drivers doing 'three-figure speeds' in lane 3, and because it saves a bit of fuel?
Almost as good as the case for going to war in Iraq

How about reading the wealth of reasons on this site, and in this forum, why 70mph is bad for safety.

Or do you prefer dictating to debating?

I've driven a lot in the States (including coast to coast) and it's a lot more sedate and relaxing, even though the road markings and conditions are a lot worse. I'm not sure it's all too do with the lower speed limit (65 mph on most bits of freeway) or the size of the cars and the fact that they are nearly all automatic.

more likely the distance. short distances are more likely to be driven faster than long distances. if you travel 10 miles, you are more likely to be impatient than if you drive 100 miles. the further you travel, the longer it takes so whats the rush? 10 minutes on a 2 or 3 hour journey makes no difference so you relax more and actually enjoy the drive
when i drive home to Stirling, i estimate a 9 hour journey but i cruise at 56ish. no hurry so i go for fuel economy. plus i travel overnight so i dont have any problems. its all about planning and common sense.
on the other hand, if you are travelling on a wide open road, what is wrong with flooring it? 70 can seem slow when there is 3 empty lanes in front of you

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OK. So I have read some of the links given earlier and can see where you are coming from. However, I cannot afford to pay any fine and therefore will still drive to the limit imposed, whether I think it to be right or not. Knowing my luck I would be caught straight away. I still don't intend to volunteer my money by breaking the speed limit.

Excellent! Welcome to Planet Sanity. Now spread the word.




Smart move. Me neither (officer).

Congratulations, almost a shame i t wasn't at 20 mph but a great idea. : evil:

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Alan

I've driven a fair bit in the South Eastern and Eastern States and can say that the driving I experienced is certainly not as you descibe (I'm not doubting your experience, just relating mine)

All traffic at least appeared to have the same limits (I don't know if different classes of vehicles have different limits) which on most interstates is 75 mph (IIRC), and the traffic is, in reality, moving at 80-85 mph - much the same as our traffic but this includes trucks.

I've seen 5-6 collisions 3 were truck on truck, a couple were people leaving the highway, travelling a fair bit and either dropping into a ditch or hitting a tree, and I've seen (what I found out later) was someone driving much slower moving into the path of someone in the outsise lane going at lot faster for no apparant reason (they were not overtaking)

Driving in the States is at much higher speed than I thought prior to going there, and the traffic police (and there is a lot of them) seem only to pull those going at an in-appropriate speed - I've seen them ignore traffic at 85 in a 70.

Cheers

Paul

Well, I'm back home now after a very pleasant day out at the protest. It was great to meet so many other likeminded people from all different age groups and walks of life. I think this helps demonstrate to the rest of the public (the doubters, in particular) that it is not a small sub-section of the community who are against the current speed camera regime and the blatant revenue generation that is going on.

Nice to meet Paul Smith and put a face to an increasingly famous name as well. Keep up the good work Paul, Robin and everyone else!

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Yes, an interesting day...

A few things I found particularly enlightening...

1, The vast majority of "other" traffic seemed to generally support the protest, the number of thumbs up we got was amazing.

2, There seemed to be a small minority of "other" drivers who seemed to be stuck in the protest, refusing to use lane 3... Perhaps they wanted to show support, but I got the distinct impression that they were unwilling to use lane 3... I know not why.

3, The few people "not" supporting the protest, seemed to prefer to demonstrate their distaste by dangerous driving.... of a type not picked up by speed cameras... of course.

My sympathy goes out to the driver of the black Supra on the eastbound return trip... was there a newspaper on your back seat that the lorry driver wanted to read?...

Can basically confirm this. I've driven a lot in NY, N Jersey & Mass, also in Colorado, Utah & Wyoming.

On the long interstate near Glenwood Springs a couple of years ago, I was doing about 90 in a hire car, and (I think) a Dodge Viper or something went past doing at least 130. This isn't all that unusual on the quiet interstates out there in the '4-corners' region. I've even seen cars doing well over 100 around Denver.

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Rioman, Herts

but I don't speed so I won't 'get caught'

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'The I don't speed so I won't get caught' brigade are the worst of all. Nothing winds me up more.

Firstly I have encountered no end of dangerous or nervous drivers who would 'never get caught'

Secondly the chances are that one day you will get caught....more and more cameras enforcing more and more illogical and inconsistent limits.

Thirdly.....Its speed today but whats next? spot fines for emissions or cars over a certain age? On the spot fines for a faulty headlight without time to repair it? One something will be outlawed and rigorously enforced that will effect you and your way of life.

Its a shame that some people are so inseccure that they need the state to tell them how to act in every facet of their lives!

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If you read some of the posts here you will realise that you don't need to.

1) Cloned number plates
2) Incorrect use of speed guns
3) Speed limit signs in the wrong place

All will get you an NIP even if you NEVER break the speed limit.

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True. And let's be quite clear - virtually every driver breaks the speed limit on occasion.

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The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

You're right!

Couldn't believe it!

I was travelling up to Temple Sowerby last weekend on M6, picnic with the kids etc. I was travelling north chatting to Mrs H and the kids, and when I looked at the speedo I was doing about 83mph !! .

Now I pride myself in recognising the speed and sticking within the limit, for professional reasons, but that northbound downhill after Shap can catch you out.

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Ian

Yes, and isn't it funny that it's right where the SG had one of his cameras deployed on the Bank Holiday Monday afternoon, when I was passing the same spot on my way to Eden Ostrich World.

(Have you been there BTW Ian? Our kids love it so much we've bought a season ticket!)

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