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 Post subject: A Gay Jolly?
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 13:09 
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Sussex police (per Friday's "Express" are under fire ... for sending two homosexual police officers on a 6 week "fact finding" jaunt to San Francisco.

Whilst there - the officers will take part in a Gay Parad and visit gay nightclubs.. :? :shock: Thisis supposed to give them an insight into San Francisco's policing of the gay community.

Brighton's residents and local politicos have condemned this as a waste of £5,000 -as police already understand the needs of gays in Brighton and its surrounds.

The officers however (one sergeant and a civilian worker) will spend time on patrol in gay Castro district and join in the Gay March in Sussex uniform and the civvy will wear a Sussex Force T-shirt! :?

Apparently this is a bursary award and they will be on full pay during the 6 weeks (but two weeks are classed as part of holiday leave). They claim they will return with fresh ideas and rest of the UK will benefit from their experience.... :?

If they come back with some ideas as to how to encourage protected sex in the gay community - but as far as am aware 'Frisco has too many HIV victims

Local politician condemns this as "a jolly good jolly - Brighton and San Francisco are worlds apart and losing two officers like this in peak holiday season is ridiculous. There is nothing new to learn - police already deal with all communities in an even-handed way..."

Locals are fuming - "If they want to uinderstand the gays here - I suggest they get out and patrol the streets" says local Andrew P.

Sussex police claim"

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The relationship between lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender communities is very delicate and the officers will share their experiences.


Yeah ... still a jolly though. San Fransisco are probably policing their gays same as anywhere else.

Nothing really any different to learn really - and they research and treat HIV the same way as we do too.....

I am sure there are more worthwhile learning experiences.... such as Canadian road safety policies....without scams.... :wink:

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Yeah...seen this on the tele what a bloody disgrace-as if it's not bad enough with politicians using any old excuse to go on a jaunt. Funny how their jaunts are always 2 week meetings in Barbados?

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Yeah...seen this on the tele what a bloody disgrace-as if it's not bad enough with politicians using any old excuse to go on a jaunt. Funny how their jaunts are always 2 week meetings in Barbados?

It's like the "global warming" crowd.. Thousands of them jet off to "conferences" in such dreary places as Hawaii, Buenos Aires, Florence... It must be Hell for them! :wink:

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I can almost feel the hot-air and it aint because of GW! :D

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EH, exactly why do gay people need policing differently than to straight people?
What could they possibly learn of any value?

Do people of different sexualities commit crimes in different ways?

As if the police werent burdened enough with actual law enforcement they now have to be social guardians.

I fail to see how getting homosexuality socially accepted is by treating them differently.


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Common sense wrote:
EH, exactly why do gay people need policing differently than to straight people?
What could they possibly learn of any value?

Do people of different sexualities commit crimes in different ways?

Could be.. A (gay) friend of mine who lives in San Fancisco told me of a nasty incident there a few days ago. Apparently a woman was attacked in the street by three men... Two of them held her down while the third did her hair. :lol:

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Reminds me of a Yes Minister episode: 'The Challenge'. Hacker wants to persuade a local council that building nuclear fallout shelters would be a better use of the money that they currently waste. It turned out that all the council had to do was:

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Postpone building the new town hall.
Scrap the plans for the artificial ski slope and the jacuzzi pools.
Close down the feminist drama centre, the council newspaper, and the welfare rights research department.
Halve the members' entertainment allowance.
Sell the mayor's second Daimler.
Cancel the twenty councillors' tourism fact finding mission to Jamaica.
Close the Gay Bereavement Centre.


Life imitating art almost. What a brilliant series.


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Hmmm As ever, this is negative reporting by the mainstream press that is conveniently neglecting to mention the whole story.

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UK - Police who work with Brighton's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) community are to visit the US to see how counterparts there work.

Sgt Mark Andrews and community liaison officer Lisa Timerick will spend six weeks in San Francisco.

The trip has been paid for with £5,000 awarded to them for winning a police award for diversity in action.

They said they wanted to use the prize to visit San Francisco because it has a large LGBT community, like Brighton.

Mr Andrews and Miss Timerick won the £5,000 bursary at the Police Review Awards in November 2004 for their work with the LGBT community in Brighton and Hove.

Mr Andrews said: "We both decided to use the bursary from the award to fund a research trip to San Francisco as the city holds so many similarities to Brighton with it having a large LGBT community.

"We hope by sharing best practice and exploring different styles of policing and community involvement we can return to Brighton with fresh ideas and learn from our first-hand experiences in America."

An officer from the San Francisco Police Department has been appointed to work with them in the city's Castro district during the visit which starts on 17 May.

On their final day in California the two officers will take part in the city's 35th annual pride march, with Mr Andrews planning to wear his Sussex Police uniform and Miss Timerick a force t-shirt.


Rather less than " a Gay Jolly". :roll:


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Still sounds like a jolly to me. Why not come up here to Manchester? We have a thriving gay community on Canal Street. Or so I'm told anyway.... What can they learn in San Fransisco that they can't learn a bit closer to home? I'm sure each force in the country does it differently so will have plenty of things to teach them.


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My (badly made ) point was that the actual trip was funded by a bursary that these officers had worked hard for in their own force and community and that this was used to finance the trip, rather than a 'random' grant that was used by a politician for a badly disguised holiday. yes, 2 weeks are being counted as holiday, but this is coming off their annual leave, rather than being in addition to it.
yes, manchester does have a thriving gay scene, but i suspect that the UK's more enlightened forces with a substantial gay scene already liaise to a certain degree, and that a US force will offer a genuinley different perspective.


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The "Mail" reported that they had been "mesmerised" by porn on a wide screen and were having a jolly holiday.

Still do not see what can be learned here - would imagine that gay communities are the same the world over - as are red light communitiies, chav communities, all communities...and crime and policing would be exactly the same there as over here -except over there - :roll: "small" :roll: :roll: matter of guns! :shock:

They'd be better off having a learning experience within UK or Europe - if they must go for a jolly. :roll:

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Surely they will learn something - like how to reload a .38 one handed while eating a doughnut? :roll:

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