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Last Year 59 Derbyshire Police Cars were caught Speeding But NONE were Prosecuted . All were responding To Emergency Calls but not showing a Blue light. The Top Brass decided that none of the cases were worth Pursuing

Full Story - http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=131665&command=displayContent&sourceNode=124566&home=yes&contentPK=12525110&localNewsNodeId=124522

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RoADA Member -GOLD 2008
If you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there.

So they put in black boxes - one paper says it went missing, another says the evidence arrived too late --data recorder says 90 in 30 limit.

"However Pc Glen Dent, who was following in a second patrol car, claimed he had been driving at only 50-60 mph."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objecti ... e_page.htm


Even a quote from SafeSpeed.

But unlike our 159mph officer there can be absolutely no argument about safe driving, because they had to haul the wreck out of somebodies living room. Call me pendantic if you like, but I think your driving has to be seriously dangerous in order to park between the sofa and the telly.

And this..
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/27/nspeed27.xml



<<THUD>>

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Speed camera policy Kills

Rewolf, that is brilliant!!

And Gizmo, was that "Thud" your head falling off through shock?
In any case, maybe we should see if this Caroline Chisholm of Brake would like to come and work with Paul on SafeSpeed!

Wouldn't it be amazing if the penny finally dropped, and they realised that we want the same thing!.

<Walks off, whistling "Imagine" by John Lennon...>

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CSCP Latin for beginners...
Ticketo ergo sum : I scam therefore I am!

Rewolf - :clap:

For our PC Parker - all score cards read "0"

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

:clap1::clap1:

Of course it could have been worse if there was anything on the telly worth watching.

Cheers
Peter

We have a course to learn how to do this skilfully. You have not one idea as to how many hours of practice it took me to park up between the sofa and the telly - without disturbing Ken and Drearideee

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

A Smiley Per post
FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

Must admit, there are times when I will respond to a call without showing blues.

Main reason for this is the "rabbit in headlights" effect most drivers seem to respond with - usual reaction is to slam the brakes on, or do things generally unpredictable.

I'll always use blues in town, but a lot of my patch has long dual carriageways and open roads, where you can safely do 10/15mph above NSL without any danger, and with less chance of vehicles you overtake acting strangely.

I also find that alternating headlights are far more effective in daytime than blues....

Having said that, it's all a judgement call at the time.

I must be missing something!

I thought that the blues were madatory on road safety grounds.

I always thought it was the law.....

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Speed camera policy Kills

I've always managed alright without them

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

Most of these articles are based on truth, but presented with a sarcastic swipe
-but this one appears to be based on a telegraph article and the telegraphs
questions about the 59 cases - could there be more to this or yet another case of "them and us" in any case it taks alight hearted look at the sbject

http://www.anorak.co.uk/news.cfm?id=168125

IG - so thats what was happening on the sites the travellers occupied - and the reasons for the sofas and tellies

Depends on the call.

We get quite a lot of urgent but not emergency calls - i.e. reported small debris in carriageway, branches on country roads, etc - not really enough to justify blues and twos, but not something you would hang around to reach either. In these circumstances I might well do 85 in the outside lane but without running blues - simply due to other driver's reactions.

Having said that, any definate emergency call, or persons on premises, etc, would get the full blues treatment.

Its the difference between making safe but quick progress, and going all out for a response driver type reaction.

Definitely depends on the type of call. We tend to switch off sirens when we are closing in on the crime scene and we believe the criminals are still there. Using a siren would make them run and we may not cop them at it.

Depends what we are doing at the time and we will judge carefully as to how to deal with it.

It really depends on what kind of job we are called to attend and what we are expecting to meet - trouble wise.

Even here in our laid-back patch - we have to explain our actions to the guvnor. But generally - can honestly say myself and the guys who work with me do not abuse our uniform or authorities. I actually agree most here - if we are speeding and there is no need for it - then we should face same consequences as any other member of the public. Otherwise - our authority is compromised.

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

A Smiley Per post
FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

Right then, this is what we need:

You have plenty of leeway for speeding, and I'll not worry about your authority being compromised, so long as the same sort of leeway is extended to other deserving cases - well me anyhow!!

Best wishes all,
Dave.

This is what happens already. I can honestly say I have never pulled a driver over for doing 2 mph above the limit (unless I wanted to use that to check out a hunch for something else) but I have pulled many a driver doing under the limit but up the backside of the car in front.

It's one of the many things cameras can't do !!

There may be the chance of the public thinking "w@nker" if I go past them over the limit but no blues, but hopefully that attitude changes 5 miles on when they see me stopped with rear reds on, dancing around the middle lane with half a bumper under my arm!!

Beg pardon Cotswold, we may have had a misunderstanding here. When I said 'you have plenty of leeway etc.' what I meant was 'I think you should have plenty of leeway etc.' - but I'd like the same please.

That doesn't mean 2 or 3 mph over the limit. I had NSL plus 60-70% in mind. That'll be OK won't it, so long as it is done safely?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Two answers depending on hat worn !!

As a Bib, can't agree with your proposal - 60/70% margin is way above what I'd drive without blues - training or real call.

Off duty, and having driven a lot in Germany, have no problem with this concept on appropriate roads, in appropriate conditions - and with appropriate level of skills and road maintenance, neither of which do we really have in the UK.