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Just what is it with people who do this?

Yesterday evening I came across an arsehole in a Rover 75 Tourer who insisted on doing about 35 mph in an NSL zone where 55-60 was quite reasonable, but where bends prevented any overtaking.

I must admit that, because he was going so amazingly slowly, I ended up tailgating him for a short distance before dropping back.

I drew level with him at the lights and he looked at me as though I was Jeremy Clarkson on crack. You can't avoid the road rage thoughts, even if you do nothing about it.

Ah yes, my 96 bhp car, what a really intimidating machine

He was a respectable-looking chap of about 60. I'm sure his car could easily beat mine in 0-60 acceleration and top speed.

Oh to be a traffic copper - "do you know why I've stopped you, Sir?"

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Did he have a flat cap and smoke a pipe...these drivers are restricted to 20mph below the posted speed limit....

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Speed camera policy Kills

Don't you just hate it? I've just come back from a trip to York from Burnley(via Harrogate) and I had someone in a Suzuki Alto doing less then 40mph most of the way from the York Ring-Road to the Sainsburys in Harrogate. That road is good for 60mph+ but was busy so people were frantically trying to get past in what were really only half-chances. I was 4th in queue by the time they got to the 40mph zone near Harrogate and turned off. It's so frustrating!

Got moving a bit only to be stuck behind a Vauxhall Viva some other old contraption after Blubberhouses doing about 30-35mph! It's the first time in a long while(perhaps ever) that I've seen a caravan overtake somebody! What made it worse was there was a Renault Espace behind that wouldn't overtake it forcing everyone to overtake 2 at a time. Normally given the speed it shouldn't be a problem to overtake but bare in mind it was a loverly day and so the roads were very busy. Slipping into 3rd and a burst of the gas took me to the wrong side of 70mph, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

I have some sympathy for older cars but frankly if you can't manage at least 50mph on the staight you have to wonder if you and/or the car should really be on the road. What really ticked me off was that he passed 3 large lay-bys that could have let the 15+ cars past.

The annoying thing about this example is that they were driving a decent car, and could easily have done 55-60 through the NSL sectioion.

I might be inclined to forgive Daewoo Matiz drivers, but a Rover 75, no way!

And I can understand a cautious driver doing 45-50 on this road, but 35 is just bollocks.

If I was a trafpol I'd pull him and give him the acid lecture for obstruction.

And why is this guy on the road in the first place? Either he is totally incompetent or has a seriously bad attitude.

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Probably because he's believed the messages being given that the only dangerous thing to do on a road is to drive quickly.

Had three like that today - pulled all three, two failed the number plate read at the roadside. The third, by far and away the oldest, failed the "attitude" test miserably. He was doing 35 averaged over 2 miles on an NSL, and is now the proud owner of a ticket.

I've always wondered about those signs that tell you your speed then say well done - can't we have some that say "Speed up you old git" or similar ?

Peter, you really can't refer to our Kev in those terms!!

As a matter of fact I exchanged e-mails with UnoHoo! recently about the MG-Rover business (as I'm still out of uk.rec.driving) and he sounds fine. I thought you might like to know that.

In any case I'm quite sure Kev would not drive in the manner you described.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

I think it's a possiblity that they're driving slowly because of a fear of a hidden scamera or Talivan just around the next bend or a temporary reduction in the speed limit.

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I would imagine Kev's driving would never give rise to such a reaction.

If I was following Kev I would probably be quite impressed with his adherence (ish) to speed limits combined with his good overall progress.

I would confidently place Kev in the overall top 5% of drivers.

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Mr "Cotswold"... If I ever get to meet you, the beers are definitely on me.!

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Attempting to bribe an officer of the law ???

My attitude is far from exceptional - I'm sure IG and IanH on here would do the same. We're just an endangered species, that's all!

What is the name of the offence of doing 35 in a NSL?

Driving without due care, perhaps?

There have been several documented cases of people being prosecuted for driving too slowly and obstructing others.

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No specific offence, although I'd go for driving without due consideration - couldn't really use without due care in these circumstances.

It's more an indicator of something else - like uncorrected vision, or quite often excess alcohol / drugs, faulty vehicle, etc...anything out of the ordinary really. It can be one of those real "gut feeling" stops when you can end up finding almost anything else.

It is the nice days like this I am glad I switch to a motorbike.

Yesterday coming back to London for Cadwell Park I saw loads of people driving 20 or even 30 mph under the speed limit but was fortunately for me able to pass with ease.

But the second worse bit of driving was a new BMW 7 doing 40mph in the centre lane of the M1a south bound with no less that 5 lorries all flashing him to move over so they could overtake. I watched this for over 3 miles as this driver was flashed gesticulated at and other wise indicated to that he should pull in if he wants to do 40mph in a 70mph limit.

I really thought for a while that the lead lorry would just ram him of the road (that’s why I watched for so long) or have a hart attack.

But the worse bit of driving I saw was in the hart of London coming down the embankment from waterloo I watched a nice BMW doing about 30mph lose its left rear wheel with a huge thump as the wheel whent under the body ripping the back bumper off and then dropping the car onto its brake disk. Not only did the man drive the car for another 300 meters he stopped altogether once had a good look about then moved off again before finally stopping.

I stopped to make sure no one was hurt to find an older bemused gent wondering what has happened. After I am assured he is alright he tells me that he was on the way to the local garage to get that fixed at the time the wheel came off.!!!!!!

Who the hell drives a car he knows to be dangerously faulty??

Has anyone seen those road signs which say.. "Frustration causes accidents, please allow overtaking"

Have the same clowns drive past the farm at work. You know you're going slow when your not making much ground on a tractor. The road is not that easy to over take on, not when you have a 1.4litre car anyway. I do enjoy roaring, well chugging past on the mighty C90 making hurry up arm jesture as I pass. You know your going really slow when a C90 gets past you on an NSL!

Only one thing worse than someone driving 30 mph on a NSL zone is someone who is doing 30 and then BRAKES for every bend.

Had one recently....I cannot believe they were competent enough to be on the road....

Also spot islands in the city....lets not look until I reach the junction then stop and look.....Grrrrrrrrrr WTF don't you look as you aproach, if it is clear DON'T STOP. I swear one day I am going to go over the top of the spot island overtaking the car that is crawling round at 5 mph.

You are right about bikes though...so such thing as slow moving traffic, just narrow lanes... The 38 miles to work take 20 mins less on the bike.

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Speed camera policy Kills