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So us poor cyclists should be "in your thoughts" with 134 killed in 2004 compared with 114 in 2003. A worse summer in 2004, to boot. I wonder what the official explanation will be?

I think the fact that a lot of cyclists think red lights don't apply to them, nor wear a helmet will have a significant contribution to the figures!

what is the story in Leics emergency call to hospital ???

i have no doubt that our PR department will say that SCP's role is solely responsible for the latest figures.

So us poor cyclists should be "in your thoughts" with 134 killed in 2004 compared with 114 in 2003. A worse summer in 2004, to boot. I wonder what the official explanation will be?

Also, most of the drop is in motorcycle deaths. When these accounted for a lot of the rise in 2002/2003, Julian Hewitt informed me in a letter to the local paper that the partnership did not accept responsibility for motorcycle deaths. Now they are claiming the credit for the improvement.

Err, no.

In topsey-turvey world, if the accident rate goes up, it's always because of speed cameras, and if the accident rate goes down, it is always NOT because of speed cameras!

You'll can't argue with sick minds!

:censored: Hampshire was mentioned on the radio this morning, and it was claimed that the drop here was due to their enforcement activities.

What they fail to mention is in 2002 and 2003 deaths were up enormously, and the drop this year is approximately back to the baseline figure before that.

Also, most of the drop is in motorcycle deaths. When these accounted for a lot of the rise in 2002/2003, Julian Hewitt informed me in a letter to the local paper that the partnership did not accept responsibility for motorcycle deaths. Now they are claiming the credit for the improvement.

In topsey-turvey world, if the accident rate goes up, it's always because of speed cameras, and if the accident rate goes down, it is always NOT because of speed cameras!

In topsey-turvey world, if the accident rate goes up, it's always because of speed cameras, and if the accident rate goes down, it is always NOT because of speed cameras!

You'll can't argue with sick minds!

So us poor cyclists should be "in your thoughts" with 134 killed in 2004 compared with 114 in 2003. A worse summer in 2004, to boot. I wonder what the official explanation will be?

Okay biggerjohn, I'll have another go.
In 2003 & 2004 Ped casualties made up the following percentages of the total
K..........................22.06 and 20.83
SI.........................21.24 and 21.87
KSI.......................21.32 and 21.77
Slight....................11.24 and 11.12
All ped casualties...12.53 and 12.42

For cyclists it was:
K...........................3.25 and 4.16
SI..........................6.81 and 6.98
KSI....................... 6.48 and 6.72
Slight.....................5.77 and 5.82
All cycle casualties...5.86 and 5.93

Only info for 2003 and 2004 in that particular report. HTH.

Why did you go to the trouble of deleting the ? Why would you do a thing like that?

you know very well that one swallow does not make a summer.

Quite so. And you're putting yourself forward as living proof?

Apologies Paul for defacing the cartoon..... please feel free to remove it.

Campaign hailed a success as road deaths fall Jul 1 2005




Daily Post


A FALL in the number of road deaths in Merseyside and Cheshire last year contributed to the lowest national total since records began.

New figures revealed 62 people were killed on Merseyside's roads in 2004, a fall of 7.5% on the 67 deaths the year before.

There was a similar fall in Cheshire, from 72 deaths in 2003 to 67 last year, according to the Department for Transport. Both police force areas also recorded small falls in the number of serious injuries, from 714 to 708 in Merseyside and from 688 to 656 in Cheshire.

A Merseyside police spokesman hailed the improvement as a reward for a wide-ranging campaign to change the habits of drivers who put lives at risk.

The force is holding a series of "Spotlight Days" on key roads to improve the standard of driving and has recruited extra traffic officers.

The spokesman said: "Road safety is one of the top priorities for Merseyside police, so these recent statistics prove that our hard work and efforts are paying off.

"We will continue to prosecute offenders who are prepared to flout the law, putting their own lives and the lives of others at risk." The good news comes despite the Daily Post's revelation that Wirral Council was likely to miss out on a £693,000 bonus payment for failing to reduce road casualties.

In contrast to the Merseyside improvement, deaths and serious injuries in the borough have leapt by 31% in five years, from 156 in 2000 to 204 last year. Ministers are currently steering through parliament the Road Safety Bill, which will crack down further on drink-driving and speeding.

Stephen Ladyman, the road safety minister, said the "substantial drop" in the number of deaths was encouraging, but he warned against complacency.

He added: "Nearly nine people a day died in road accidents last year and that figure is too high."