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must be to the right myself. Anti nanny state, anti islingtonites etc etc.

But very pro freedom. both economically and socially.

Government must be small, things must be simple.

Government in my mind exists because we have to do some things collectively, e.g health, defence etc. Don't have any truck with the 'we know best' mentality.

will read most things but can't abide the daily mirror.

Didn't you mean

Agree with that.
I think PC people are probbally the most evil minded people you would meet. As they seem to be able to think of reasons why people would find a word,phrase,picture diagram or logo offensive.

For example you are not supposed to use brainstoming, as person who has a fits may find it offesive . Thought shower is the term now.

As for the nanny state, don't get me started.

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I suspect a lot of people here broadly have that attitude - in British terms they would describe themselves as a bit right of centre, but believe strongly in individual freedom and would consider the views of the US "Religious Right" to be anathema.

Personally while I usually vote Conservative I am appalled by their current opposition to the government's plans to liberalise the licensing laws. I think they've lost the plot on that.

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Thought of that RW- but trying to hide age.

Posh loo paper when you use the times financial section


But to be serious , as my bit about ignoring a persons beliefs etc goes-

This is not a political debateing society - we should all be like good civil servants when we log on --
leave our politics outside
Road safety is our common uniting factor

left of centre, if that's really a position.

I believe in social responsibility (used to be called socialism but that was murdered by Blair in his quest to be the new Maggie).

I don't support a nanny state or overt political correctness. I think those things came about as a reaction to the "me me me" 80's and early 90's.

Actually, I'm not really a lefty or a socialist, I'm a christian, and that underpins (I hope) the way I deal with other people.

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I think the important thing here is that there is a danger of "labelling" those who don't agree with you (in general), and a tendancy on this and other forums to assume only "right" people support the aims that Safe Speeds promotes.

As I said earlier, in many ways (especially economically) I'm very left, but I'm also a libertarian, anti-nanny state and PC, and 100% behind Safe Speed's aims.

Surely this last point is the most important?

(Also don't assume that left-thinking people are pro-Blair - most aren't)

All I ask is that we all judge people on forums by what they actually say, rather than put labels on them and assign them views they amy not hold?

Prof Beard

I think the main difference between the uk left and right are based on economics, state ownership etc.

Theres nothing left or right about blairism, its that islington based liberal elite stuff that will truely lead us to hell in a hand cart.

i'm to the right and think people should pretty much live and let live, i think i share that with 'true' 'lefties', the blairite (middle way) is far more sinister in its thought police mentality. Thats why cameras fit in so well, they make the rules, you follow them......how can anyone argue with that? they know best.

Couldn't agree more - thanks for that!

Prof Beard

Centre right on some, further to the right on others, am anti Nanny State and anti PC.


Detest New Labour with a vengeance, detest in particular two jags Prescott, have no opinion of the Liberal Democrats, haven't a clue what is going on with the Conservatives.

I attempt to treat others how I myself, wish to be treated and attempt to respect logical opinions and good argument.

I'm sure this isn't what you meant but this comment does sound a lot like you are saying "I don't want to discuss things with people who don't agree with me".

You may want to take this test and see where you come out.

And then compare your results with

Oh Sh**!

According to the test, I'm exactly halfway along a straight line between the greens and the libdems.

Not in a billion years!

Then again, the greens and libdems do believe in personal freedom - their own. They just want everyone else to be controlled.

Cheers
Peter

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Hmm, very interesting but somewhat simplistic,

Centre right but not too extreme, I would however put myself along the same lines as Maggie thatcher but was way off.


Economic Left/Right: 1.00 right bias
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.69 authoritarian bias

Hovering somewhere between the greens and the Dalai Lama, which I'm sure doesn't really reflect my views. I think that test has got a fault in that to some of the questions my honest answers would be "No idea" "Depends" and "Who cares?", but lacking that option I just marked each one i came across as alternately agree and disagree. I wonder how diefferent it would have been if I'd marked them the other way round.

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Like my mate Gatsobait - not really pro any particular party - probably left of centre on some issues and right of centr on others.

No truck with the politically correct brigade or the nanny state. Do not support a complacent politician - he has to work to get my vote. Vote in last election - secret between me and the ballot box - but it was a considered vote - but chap I voted for did not win. humph!

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Oh my gawd how Green Party am I! Haha I think I landed right on top of them!
I was expecting to be between the Greens and the Liberal Democrats because I don't agree with everything they say. But then all pollitical parties lie so it doesn't matter too much what they say, that's my theory anyway.

I read their manefesto and was going to vote for them too, until I realised they didn't have a candidate here. doh!

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Andrew.

Oh no , apparently I'm a liberal lefty....

All yhose years in my youth as an angry punk have counted for nothing !!

As expected:

Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

Firmly in the bottom left corner - a libertarian lefty!

Prof Beard

I don't agree with where they have placed the parties on that chart: the Greens are left/authoritarian and the BNP are right/authoritarian. Not sure about the Lib Dems as they tend to have a bit of a mixed bag of policies.

I would never have guessed