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Tell you what, the next time you're packed like a sardine on the tube train on your way to work, ask yourself if your journey is really necessary.
Perhaps if you stayed home and claimed benefits then a few others could get a seat.

Cheers
Peter

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You're dead right - that's why I don't work in London and accept a lower salary elsewhere - where I can cycle or walk to work. I consider my standard of living to be high enough without having to endure long commutes.

I always consider whether;

a) my journey is necessary

b) whether I'm using the appropriate mode.

I think the RAC are offering sound advice this time.

I'm glad to hear you're not one of those pervy planet pulverisers who trash your and my Terra and turn Gaia's gifts to garbage by tramming and training to the far corners of the country to flatten the flora and frighten off the fauna on one of the few remaining pristine patches of nature we have left to preserve.

Why don't they stay at home and conserve energy in their own backyard?


Or one of those wierd exhibitionists who insist on doing their recreation (thank got it's not procreation, yeuch) all together in the altogether at some overheated swimming pool. Think of how much energy is wasted heating the pool and the centre. And all that planet destroying greenhouse gas H2O vapourising off the pool!

Why don't they stay at home and throw on an extra cardi and pair of long johns and socks and conserve energy? If they insist on getting all wet together why don't they conserve water by building a cold tub (out of managed sustainable timber) to store rainfall. And hack off the ice for a dip every now and again before having a roll in the snow?

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You often hear people going on about short journeys being unnecessary, but if you actually analyse them, there is generally a strong justification for them, for example:

• carrying heavy loads, such as the weekly shop
• inclement weather - pouring rain or freezing cold
• the driver and/or passengers are elderly or disabled
• the journey, in the judgment of the driver, is time-critical (if I walk back from the Chinese takeway, my meal will be cold by the time I get home)
• the trip is part of a longer journey

When none of these apply I often in fact do local trips on foot.

The idea that large numbers of people are metaphorically driving the car to the shop for 20 fags and a packet of lard is very wide of the mark.

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There are a considerable number of people doing just that.

The local primary school which my daughter attends locks it's gates between 3pm and 3.30 (they kick out at 3.15). It's a 10 min walk for an Adult from my front door, 20 mins with a 2yr old in tow. We walk because we prefer to.

The couple across the road set off five to ten minutes before us so they can get int the carpark before the gates are locked. They then have to wait 15 mins for the gates to be unlocked. They usually arrive home a few mins after us. There's plenty others who will drive, strugge to park, mess about getting the little one from car seat to buggy and back again, all of which takes longer than the trip would on foot. But it's their choice, and it gives me a chuckle.

No it's because of over development of a vital through route. We have a Sainsburys, an Asda, a Netto, an Aldi, a Halfords, a Comet a couple of Sofa places, an Argos Extra, one(of two) entrances to the main town centre car park, and a railway station all using this junction. This is in addition to it acting as a through route to access M65 and Padiham. And then they go and build a Tesco, completly superfluous in my opinion which meant sticking traffic lights on the only other through route.

The school run is perhaps an exception to that, but even so, if you looked at it you would find that many people apparently doing "unnecessary" school run journeys actually have entirely legitimate reasons why they can't walk their children to school.

And we need to be careful of telling other people how to run their lives - that is what T2000 et al do. Surely a child's parents are the people best fitted to decide what is and what isn't appropriate for its welfare.

I agree, though, that in the example you give the behaviour does appear daft.

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And so, I suspect, do 99.9% of other people.



My point is (was?), they have taken what amounts to a small problem and blown it up out of all proportion.

Cheers
Peter

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Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler