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For those of you who don't know my daughter was killed last year in a car accident at the young age of 12 and for those of you that do know well here is a little update.
I have today been approached by BBC who wish to feature an appeal on Crimewatch UK so on wednesday I will be interviewed by them about what happened to my little girl and it will be aired this month on 29th( i think) They have also asked me to mention my campaign on asking for a change in the law regarding drivers who kill.
For those of you who are not aware of my campaign or what happened to my daughter you can read about it here.
http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/4549.html

I sincerely hope and pray that the Crimewatch programme works for you, as it has in so many other cases.
I can only imagine it is bad enough losing a child, but not knowing how or why, must be even worse.
You must be going through the mill.

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I sincerely hope and pray that the Crimewatch programme works for you, as it has in so many other cases.
I can only imagine it is bad enough losing a child, but not knowing how or why, must be even worse.
You must be going through the mill.

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Hi Nikki
keep strong , hope the crimewatch appeal gets lots of response.
Hope Hayleys killer is finally caught. If he/she had any conscience they
would hand themselves in.

Good luck with your campaign

Sharon x

My thoughts are with you. I have two young daughters and I love them more dearly than life itself. I cannot begin to imagine how you have suffered.

John Thornley

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What happened?

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Steve

Your statement of what happened suggest's that the vehicle you hold responsible was not involved in an impact.

Why did the vehicle your daughter was in lose control?

Was it speeding?

Was their a fault with the vehicle, your daughter was in?

Or was it driver error?

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Steve

the vehicle at fault was not involved in the impact. It caused the accident because it was driving wrecklessly weaving in and out of traffic. It caused all the cars on the road to swerve and brake heavily. The vehicle my daughter was a passenger in was 4th in a line of cars forced to brake hard and there was no room to stop safely. The driver of the vehicle wasn't speeding, but we feel was too close to the car in front, hence why he couldn't stop safely. the one thing we can't understand is that there was a wide verge to the left of the road and had he swerved that way instead of into oncoming traffic our daughter would probably still be alive. the police have said that he is partly to blame, but the cause of the accident was the untraced vehicle and the way it was behaving over a distance of at least 5miles before the impact of the crash.

The driver of the vehicle your daughter was in is fully to blame, the other vehicle had already passed. I cannot understand why you are looking for another vehicle which only overtook. It seems that the person at the front of the que was traveling too slowly. As even the vehicle your daughter was in was tailgating. This is clearly why the other vehicle was passing.

Had the driver of the vehicle your daughter was in, been driving with enough of a stopping distance the accident would not of happened. You can stop your search and deal with the driver of the vehicle your daughter was in.

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Steve

Nikki
I have circulated details of your daughters campaign around the hospital
where I work, hope this helps

Love
Sharon

I have today been approached by BBC who wish to feature an appeal on Crimewatch UK

A vehicle is only required to stop if it has been involved in an accident. Your statment states this vehicle was the 5th in front.

That vehicle had no reason to stop, the fault lays with the driver of the vehicle your daughter was in. [quote][/quote]

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Steve

bmwk12
You totally misunderstood me. The vehicle that caused the accident was travelling in the opposite direction and was fully responsible for the accident. It was weaving in and out of traffic at well over 80mph driving dangerously both over and undertaking. Why don't you read my petition or check out the programme when it is aired and you will be able to see why the peugeot was at fault.

Perhaps it's best not to pass judgement on incidents we only have a description of and didn't actually witness ourselves eh?

Still, it demonstrates the difficulties the courts face when trying to unpick the varying accounts of an incident (including the deliberate distortions and lies from the guilty) and pass judgement.

Good luck on Weds Mahali

You state the vehicle lost control due to having to brake heavily, not that the other vehicle forced it off the road!

Sorry it does not add up?

Please clarify how the other vehicle pushed your daughters vehicle off the road.

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Steve

Seems a contradiction in terms

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Steve

I edited my reply out which I made because I'm getting annoyed.

quoted by bmwk12

Sorry it does not add up?

according to the 80 plus witnesses it does and according to the police they are definitely guilty of dangerous driving and will be charged as such when they are caught. Your assumption that a vehicle has to make contact to be classified as being involved in an accident is not right as the fact that there were so many witnesses to the accident is sufficient evidence to prove that the peugeot was at fault.

bmwk12, I think if the police have reason enough to put it on Crimewatch they must have reason to think the Pug driver is the initial cause. The driver who crashed may have reacted poorly to the situation and therefore holds some of the blame, but he didn't create the danger in the first place.

mahali, very sorry for your loss, hope the appeal turns something up.

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Thank you Gatso, well said, the driver of the car that crashed may have made a mistake or reacted wrongly to the situation, but the driver of the pug was deliberately driving dangerously.
Unfortunately, even if the pug driver is caught, they may well get off with dangerous driving and nothing more.

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I hope that the program helps to bring the perpetrator to justice.

You have my deepest sympathy, so sorry to hear of your loss.

Ric.