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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 23:41 
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Oh dear, you really need to get the hang of the search facility :(

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Your Danasoft siggy is wrong, it is displaying the IP of the proxy that I use rather than my real IP address.

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How would I change that?

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Photoshop? 8-)

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Jackington wrote:
How would I change that?

You can't, you have no control over it

Ernest Marsh wrote:
Photoshop? 8-)

PS won't help Ernest, the siggy is an active image that queries the viewers system for the machines IP addy.

You'll note that mine does the same, only it has the ability to see "through" any proxy that somebody may be using and go right to their machine.

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Gixxer wrote:
You'll note that mine does the same, only it has the ability to see "through" any proxy that somebody may be using and go right to their machine.


:rotfl: :rotfl:


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Gixxer wrote:
Jackington wrote:
How would I change that?

You can't, you have no control over it

Ernest Marsh wrote:
Photoshop? 8-)

PS won't help Ernest, the siggy is an active image that queries the viewers system for the machines IP addy.

You'll note that mine does the same, only it has the ability to see "through" any proxy that somebody may be using and go right to their machine.


Nope, neither of them work properly :-)

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Yeah, neither of them correctly detect mine as 192.168.0.1 :lol:

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JT wrote:
Yeah, neither of them correctly detect mine as 192.168.0.1 :lol:

That's because a class C address is not valid on the WAN :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 08:16 
Ah, they are, it's just that some such as 192.168.0.0 are reserved for private addressing, it's allowed more NIC issued ip's to be freed up for internet useage such that many of us don't have to go down the complicated IP version6 route.


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Hey Johno!!

You're developing a stammer.. :-)

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johno1066 wrote:
Ah, they are, it's just that some such as 192.168.0.0 are reserved for private addressing,

That's right, and a private IP address is NOT a valid address on the internet.
Your true (WAN) IP address (which is how you are traced) can be seen by clicking >HERE< (as well as in my siggy).

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it's allowed more NIC issued ip's to be freed up for internet useage such that many of us don't have to go down the complicated IP version6 route.

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Your NIC doesn't issue anything, your ISP issues you an IP address.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 17:12 
Yes I know, i've been a network engineer for 7 years. The NIC issue ip's to the ISP.


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johno1066 wrote:
The NIC issue ip's to the ISP.

You've been a network techie for 7 years and you are still making statements like the one above? :shock: :shock:

The NIC requests an IP addy, it doesn't issue anything.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 22:11 
Oh for Pete's sake, let's shut this down once and for all so we can get on with what matters, i don't want to fall out over techie crap.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc ... htmwhereby

Here's the reserved addresses for private network addressing, ie those networks that aren't internet or public. large corporations, small businesses or homeowners etc. OK. With the class A address 10.0.0.0, class B 172.16.0.0 or class C address, ie 192.16.0.0. These are the official address ranges yet in reality you could use whatever you wanted to.


10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix)
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix)
192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)

Iana (Internet assigned numbers authority) are responsible for the whole addressing both IPv4 and IPv6 they are also responsible for DNS and a host of other associated protocols . ISP's do not go direct to IANA, they apply to a national NIR, regional RIR or local LIR registry ie, generally the NIC or interNIC as they are now known, who will issue a band of ip's to the ISP. The ISP then assigns an IP address/s to the user.

If you want more lessons then do as I did and spend the months trawling through books and the RFC's learning this crap. go to www.cisco.com you can find it all.


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Gents - please hit the "handbag retraction switch".( found near the testestorone outlet valve)

in the techie world , please look at the facts and possibly both are ( to some extent right)

I would as an electronics/comms/ etc engineer ( not my name, but my quals)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 22:27 
Absolutely right, my apologies Gixxer!


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In fact no F*&k it, i've been insulted and all out war has been declared!!


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johno1066 wrote:
Absolutely right, my apologies Gixxer!


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In fact no F*&k it, i've been insulted and all out war is now on the agenda!!!!


If it is, please take it off line. PMs work well for that.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 22:37 
In fact, F&*k it again, i've got better things to do anyhow. Paul, please delete my user account and membership, i have no further use for it on this board!!


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johno1066 wrote:
In fact, F&*k it again, i've got better things to do anyhow. Paul, please delete my user account and membership, i have no further use for it on this board!!

When most people talk about NICs they're talking network interface cards, not Network Information Centre. So you're both right. So rather than stomping off in a huff, why not kiss and make up?


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PLEASE PLEASE


As a well educated tech i see both of you well versed in your own subjects. We need these skills
WITH US
not against us
Can you please shake hands, ake friends , just say " made a mistake mate, or i didn't read your answer just right, I've done it - hundreds of others have done it , a wrong word in a post causes aggro , something we should step back from and see if "just possibly we have given the other bloke cause to get angry with us" - no one is perfect and we've all upset someone. the true test is to say " ok mate, i've upset you ,how can we work together"


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